Flock cameras

[Obie]

"They will be installed in the HPP mail parks within a year, guarans..."

The mail parks had lights and cameras installed when they were built.

Flock cameras would make sense though.
At the location of the mail park on 6th and Makuu the batteries were stolen from the tsunami siren twice.

[MyManao]

"They will be installed in the HPP mail parks within a year, guarans..."

The mail parks had lights and cameras installed when they were built.

I had no idea you all already have cameras.. I said Flock would be used because unsupervised I can only imagine how fast some ICE head would dream up a reason to vandalize... come on man there's gotta be something of value in those boxes, right?

As to Flock.. they are very dangerous. There's one at Home Depot, btw..

This article.. in Wired Mag.. at.. https://archive.ph/hv7Sm will scare the bejesus out of any sane person.. it says in part..

The software, originally called Nightshift and more recently renamed OS Investigate, ships with 69 prewritten prompts that officers can select, review, or edit, and then submit to the AI. Officers can also input prompts of their own.

The suggested prompts sit in a cache of more than 450 files that WIRED found on Flock's own website, served by its login pages to anyone who loaded them. The code describes 45 tools at the AI’s disposal, giving it access to plate scans and camera metadata, arrest records, case files, dispatch logs, ballistics results, and commercial databases that contain Social Security numbers, dates of birth, phone numbers, email addresses, relatives and associates.

And it goes on.. and on..

[randomq]

I think this type of technology should be unsearchable and inadmissible for anything less than a felony or violent crime. Strict penalties for misuse, audited and enforced by independent watchdogs.

[Punatang]

That is sound thinking RandomQ but it could limit the life saving benefits of Flock.  Clearly, we can trust our leaders, experts, and science in these matters.  All of these conspiracy theories and concerns about freedumbs and privacy seem misplaced.  Critical thinking must prevail.  Already Flock cameras have saved lives.  I read about three different Baby Boomers, in three separate instances, who had wandered off and gotten themselves into dangerous situations, but they were saved by Flock cameras.  In one jurisdiction alone, The Sheriff’s Office reports that over the past two years, their Flock LPR cameras helped solve 15 murders, 17 kidnappings, and 172 missing-persons cases. Specific examples include locating a teenage girl kidnapped from Georgia and brought to a Jacksonville motel, and quickly finding an elderly man with dementia.  That is just one jurisdiction over just two years!  

If you're feeling anxiety over flock cameras, just tap into your empathy.  If it saves one life, it's worth it, right?  I scan to protect you - you scan to protect me.  We are all in this together.

[MyManao]

Clearly, we can trust our leaders, experts, and science in these matters..

Lol! You really said that, eh? With a straight face? 

I suppose since you support a regime that has turned the DOJ into its very own means to seek retribution.. to persecute its enemies.. to deny us our rights at every turn.. that it's only natural you'd say something like that. But still brah..

I'm flabbergasted!

[HiloJulie]

I think I have read numerous posts on the pages on the Great and Hallowed PunaWeb something about NOT feeding the TROLLS.

If you so called "experts" at everything can't see through the Tangy Tang Tang's very poor gaslighting and blatant outright attempts at just trying to goad you, you're a bigger TROLL than the whole Tangy Ting Tang Clan.

Seriously, while the Flock cameras can no doubt aide our Police and other First Responders when used properly, having a legal requirement that a police officer writes a sworn statement (called an affidavit) detailing the facts that establish probable cause that a crime indeed occurred and that the suspect can most likely be found by using the Flock Camera System and the officer takes this document to an impartial judge or magistrate, who can then review it and sign a warrant to get access to the Flock Cameras for that specific crime and suspect and would only issue the warrant if the proof is legally sufficient.

Letting some religious blowhard cop track down a woman he suspected of having an abortion or the wife beating restraining order slapped deputy hell bent on teaching his ex-wife a good lesson seems, to me at least, in need of some very tough and stringent guard rails being put in place.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

see through the Tangy Tang Tang's very poor gaslighting and blatant

He does like to poke the bear. And then say, oh no, not me, yoooouuurr poking the bear.
If Tang Imitation Orange Breakfast Drink likes Flock, he’s gonna love what our trusted Dear Leaders will do with Signal Trace + Flock:

Imagine that you share a ride to work with the same colleague most mornings. As it passes by a license plate reader, the camera records the car, which can be linked through vehicle records to its registered owner. Beside it, another sensor detects signals broadcast by devices traveling nearby, such as your phone and your colleague’s smartwatch.

After enough trips, software may treat some of those devices as a recurring electronic signature associated with the vehicle. Weeks later, one of the same device signals appears alongside a different car connected to an investigation.

https://theconversation.com/new-tech-add...ars-288876

[Durian Fiend]

I think this type of technology should be unsearchable and inadmissible for anything less than a felony or violent crime.  Strict penalties for misuse, audited and enforced by independent watchdogs.

I believe the deputies who misused the cameras for stalking people were fired and arrested.

[MyManao]

called an affidavit..

 
Naivety runs deep.. into the mind it seeps..

Just the notion that anyone is playing fair with that kind of technology is absurd. Like I am sure.. positive.. ICE is playing fair.. day in and day out.. fair as the trade winds blow.. with every brown black or otherwise not white Christian male.. they would never use Flock.. never.

I mean, gee, they're disappearing folks.. naturalized citizens.. left right and center... but no they'd never.. wtf is F— book for other than to catalog every naive soul that is "only there to stay in touch with the kids" and aggregating all that data with all the rest.. 

But no, ICE wouldn't dare, would they? I mean, not unless they had "an affidavit" of course.

What about women that have to go to a free state for medical help? No-one would use Flock to track them, right? Or all the folks that frequent a mosque.. or any other place that identifies them as not that good ol' white Christian male?

As I said.. anyone that speaks in favor of Frock will live to regret it. And still.. it will be on every corner soon enough, guarans. Seriously.. they certainly will be on the main road arteries of the island. You can bet.. every time you turn off 11 to get on 130.. every time you go through Hilo, Waimea, Kona. And it will file everything.. name, address, phone, ss#, bank/debt info, health data, education, employment, criminal records, personal associations, body temperature..

And it's so much more than Frock. Next year every new car sold in America will have a camera in it.. watching the driver.. in real time.. and making assessment of you. Try to start the car inebriated, and it won't start, and it'll send a report to the police, and your insurance company. Light up a joint.. same same. And all those cameras tied with Frock, with GPS, with all the Ring cameras, and the in store bluetooth trackers, and all your social media nonsense. Same with wearable.. your heart rate.. blood pressure.. and think of the assumptions they'll make.. if they have "an affidavit" of course.

[HiloJulie]

As I said.. anyone that speaks in favor of Frock will live to regret it. And still.. it will be on every corner soon enough, guarans. Seriously.. there certainly will be on the main road arteries of the island..

I am not speaking in favor of Flock as it currently stands today, but if everyone who speaks in favor of Flock will live to regret it and as YOU say it will become an eventual reality on every street corner, which YOU also guarantee, then wouldn't the sane, logical and DEMOCRATIC way of dealing with that certain eventuality be to first elect the political bodies that would enact such laws as needed to ensure the Flock system is not abused and see to it that those new laws are enforced be a better option than as it currently has with virtually no regulations or laws behind it.

Police Officers and Law Enforcement agencies armed with the power the Flock Cameras can provide to catch the really bad guys as Tangy Tang Tang points out should be commended. The ones who use it for tracking down women who have abortions or ex-wives/fiancé's/girlfriends, how does MANDATORY life in prison sound? I'm sure that would give society the best of both worlds.