bridges

[Bob Orts]

I've got to be the dumbest US citizen alive cause I seem to lost on this whole Iraq and “security" thing.

As I recall, a horrible terrorist act was perpetrated against the US. It originated from Saudi Arabia; controlled by a US backed terrorist in Afghanistan; funded by our allies in the Middle East; with no connection to Iraq. If this is the “security” issue we’re talking about, what does it have to do with the billions we’re spending in Iraq?

[Kelena]

Gosh, Bob. The same people that "knocked down those buildings" on 9/11 and were vaporized as a result, its the same people who are attacking us in Iraq!

By the way, have you ever noticed that "conservatives" (those who support the junta) don't believe in infrastructure of any kind, unless that infrastracture is supplied by corporate prostitutes friendly to the Administration? Their whole philosophy is "It's every man, woman and child for him or herself." Liberals' philosophy is this: "I am my brother's keeper. We can accomplish more together than we can apart".

Liberals believe in infrastructure; Republicans believe in cutting all taxpayer funding for infrastructure, and for letting free enterprise pick up the pieces.

Cities don't build levees and bridges. These projects are too big. States and the Federal Government maintain big projects like bridges and levees.

Except that the radical Republicans who support this junta (not true conservatives, because the junta has driven up the deficit to record highs) want nothing more than to destroy the government. The government, by the way, is us. We are in the way of a nation by the corporations, for the corporations, utterly lawless and unrestrained by any regulations that promote the common good. In short, we are halfway to China, and, if these people have their way, will soon become a colony of China. They know no nations. They just follow the money, whereever it leads around the globe. Supporting them is like supporting Hitler in 1937.

In answer to loffelkopffl's question, the streets of New Orleans could have been paved with gold, and all the bridges in Minnesota could have been paved with silver for the price of this war.

This war was prosecuted for one reason only: To bankrupt the US Treasury, to destroy the government, and to clear the way for international corporations to do exactly what they wish with the United States, which is to turn it into a vassal state.

Grow your own vegetables.

[punafish]

Does anyone else see the irony? How the subject of a "bridge" can be so polarizing and divisive. But then maybe it isn't irony at all: the collapsed bridge in Minnesota is an appropriate metaphor of our polarized nation/political system. Do we have any political leaders selfless and humble enough to build bridges? If not, I fear for our future.

Tim

Other people can talk about how to expand the destiny of mankind. I just want to talk about how to fix a motorcycle. I think that what I have to say has more lasting value.”
Robert Pirsig

[mella l]

Oh it isn't just this bridge, although perhaps it is being used as a metaphor. Read em and weep 27 percent is the recent media quote of the bridge infrastructure studies, those that need dire attention right here is our very own US of A.

Just where is our conscience as a nation these days?

Last week an overpass being constructed in my home town fell down, unprovoked. Hey brand new super framing, just reading for the pavement. Thank goodness only three injuries at the 7:30am commute. My question is why does this little neck of the woods qualify for a 107 million dollar overpass system in the middle of no where. Port from Sacramento! Rather like a bridge built in Alaska for some 11,000 people who rarely if ever use it, called the bridge to nowhere, an island with not much on it! LOL

The Minnesota bridge is a symptom of the crumbling of OUR nation.

The medical care situation needs vast quantities attention, perhaps you've heard our rank in the world of industrialized nations, pathetic.

The educational system is being bled dry for the likes of our very own Taliban Schools of the Evangelical stripe. We wouldn't want effective and free public education to taint the minds of our young or our nations future leaders, now would we!

The countless laws on the books go un enforced, yet we add more and more to the books each year, more unenforceable than the preceding set.

No the Democrats do not have the majority in either house to carry a vote alone. Who reads? So bothersome.

Hopefully Michael Moore's next project will be Lobbyists, that would be my hope. But sheeple led to water don't read. Or perhaps the selling of a government to privatize, prisons, military, medicine, OH wait that has already happened and look where we are.

The zipper comment is such old tired news, it leads one to guess or not, but hey I'll venture a guess, voyeurism, jealousy? Get over it good grief!

Anyone who compares the current fiasco, or the Vietnam war with WWII is out of their cotton pickin minds, and has no sense of history.

There can be no fifty-fifty Americanism in this country said the president on inauguration day, "either you're with us or against us". So it is a black and white world?

Read people, it is the future of your children, your grand children, perhaps it isn't too late for your great grand children who will be paying for these false wars to the benefit of Haliburton, Blackwater ALL privatized contractors who are operating with no oversight, or accountability, and where did that 11 billion dollars go that the GOA says has disappeared?? Loose change, small change?

mella l

PS Tahnk you for the web link to the national priorities list!!

Edited by - mella l on 08/04/2007 12:17:02

[Kapohocat]

and before Rob reminds us that this is the "PUNAWEB".... i havent seen much mentioned here about the state of our bridges here on the Big Island - did anyone see the news segment last night on our bridges of which they named Kolekole as one of the most in need of repair??

[Rob Tucker]

Thank you Kapohocat, I was hoping someone would steer this into Hawaiian waters.........




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[Kelena]

Well, I said we should all grow our vegetables. Can't get more Puna than that. Also, whenever anyone brings up the topic of the world crumbling around us, it immediately makes me want to move to remote island. Right on topic.