so that one was 13 blocks away, but it's going on daily on every street. It's not just some complacency by the Police it's them not getting enough new recruits and have toe money to get more? They don't ebven have computersin their cars.
Thank you canhle
Glen I still can leace the keys in my cars and my house unlocked in the middle of this because.
1 you fence your property, Not just to keep stuff out but to keep your dogs in.
2 Yes dogs are the number 1 deterrant, if you raise Dane/Mastiff's as I do the burglars move on to an easier pickins.
3 As your dad told ya (or if he didin't) "you can't pick your siblings but you can pick your friends, so choose them wisely."
Get to know your good neighbors, get the riff raff and burglars out.
where's my bic?
I'm gonna set this folder on fire.
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Maybe this isn't pertinent to a Neighborhood Watch, but I think it is.
It seems to me that the best way to address the problem of burglary which seems to be out of control (Most places, things that aren't locked up will be stolen. Not just Puna.)is to get to the root problem which is drug use. That seems to be an economic issue--jobs needed, etc. It's a pretty daunting task, but, if residents of Puna started talking about the need for drug use and addiction to be addressed--treatment programs, job training, jobs--hopefully, the State and County will begin to listen. Non Profits can be started, too. We don't need to wait for the Gov't to act. The University and Community Colleges can get involved. Programs in the grade schools would be good.
It seems like a wide spectrum of solutions would need to be instigated in order to seriously address this issue. Or it will only get worse.
My interest in the problems of Big Island in particular and HI in general did have a lot to do with my tendency to watch Dog. (Also, to get a glimpse of HI. I can almost feel the trades when I watch the palm trees waving.) Having taught and counseled at all grade levels including Comm. College in HI, the issue of education, jobs, and counseling, support to encourage people to tackle the difficult job of supporting themselves and family against high odds is of extreme interest to me.
What do you think?
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p.s.
My experience in several different cities is that burglary is not high on any police department's list. How are they going to catch these unknown people? Even if they know who it is (as I did recently when I found my grandmother's silver gone, taken by my mother's caretaker)--just what are they going to do about it? Even if they get her, how do I prove it? Will I get Grandma's silver back? All very doubtful.
When I'm burgled now, I usually don't even bother calling the police (except in this case, I thought I might have a chance since I knew who it was.) What would you do to catch these guys?
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Does anyone know if there is a DARE program in the schools. It is put on by the police in elementery schools.
There in lies the problem, again Puna is a DEPRESSED economic area. The "system" here doesn't even have adequate systems in place for my friend's autistic son, but she gets by.
You'll find lots of resorceful people here the burglars being one group of them. They'll sit at the top of the road and watch for their victim to go to work and then the cell phone their partner at the guys house. They're selective.
The county funds from last year for HPPNW have been sitting at the Police Station because they can't figure out how to disburse it. This year Naeole Counselwoman for Puna, puts in 197 to fix it. It was withdrawn at the end of the day. The county can't figure out how to even disburse funds.
You think the burglars care at all about how ridiciously long it take for the system to move here? Nah. It's a burglar's paradise too.
Anyone want a puppy? My friend he got plenty, good pig dogs, guard dogs, kid dogs.
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What the county police and HPP need to do is, perhaps, get a discretionary grant from a council member, and launch a "sting". Put some attractive piles of lumber or other such desireable stealables out in the sub divisions and implant a homing device.
Follow the homing device to the booty and arrest the holders for burglery and or possession of stolen goods.
It may only be a small number of crews robbing over and over. Take 'em off the street and things will calm down and prospective thieves will have to wonder if there is another homing device embedded in the next pile of 2x4's or ATV.
Just my suggestion I keep repeating......
Assume the best and ask questions.
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HPD does have a DARE program. To see their community action see pg 10:
http://www.hawaiipolice.com/pdfDocs/Annu...t05-06.pdf
Rob, lol that's good. too much TV bra. A sting would take a lot of man hours and I doubt if the police have someone that wiuld follow that through. As I said before, Malissa had to chase some burglars down her drivway with a machete.
The Police never did anything about it.
They even caught them after they robbed another house in Ainaloa.
It's the fact there is only one person who files police reports, and no computer link to their own cars, response time of?15-20 minutes?
if at all. If 911 isn't busy.
But if I were a builder I would have set some traps.
Security comes in layers, if you're lucky.
The more layers, the more security.
In HPP there's just a lot of land that's naked. A lot of jungle between homes and most people moved out here to be private, (pre-lot-to-lot-boom) so knowing who coming and going is impossible unless they put the cameras out. Even with pictures it's hard to get a case through the courts here. I've taken pictures of illegal activities and showrd it to the cops and they said if they didn't witness it they would even file a report.
I take my camera every time I leave my place because I know I'm going to see something nuts. Got tons of videos clips. Anyone know how to paste them together for a Utube flick?
Good idea Rob, let me know if you can find anyone who'll go for it, I know some hot lots.
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I disagree that drug abuse is due to a lack of "jobs". I am not an expert, but a little more expert than many. I have sat in on Drug Court many times. In my experience, there are a combination of factors, most of which are personal to the drug abuser, and some of which are situational and connected to the larger culture. There is a connection between drug abuse and other crime, where crime is used to support the habit, but getting at the root is a complex societal problem that has no immediate solution. We should, of course, focus on it, and I see that Hawaii County has been given a sizable grant for its Drug Court. Drug Courts are very successful programs and I wish it well.
However, in the meantime, we have a crime problem. Broad daylight? What is odd, of course, is that these people are not stealing from wealthy people. Twenty-seventh and Maku'u is very nice, and it is home to us, but it is not Rodeo Drive. These people are stealing from people who, for the most part, have worked hard to get where they are.
But these people don't care because they are lacking in morals. I agree with Rob that the BEST method dealing with this is to perform a sting operation. Hawaii (all islands) should have been doing this for awhile. When you rent a car in Kauai and open the trunk, it tells you in giant red letters "Don't put anything in here because it will get stolen".
Well, Kauai is a small island. It should be a simple matter to stake out a few major tourist parking spots (Ke'e, Poipu) and bust somebody, so people don't have to be paranoid about leaving a $100 camera given to them by a dear friend in their trunk.
I remember when I lived in Paris in the late 70's (as a very poor, and hungry student), that there was a murder in a parking garage. It was page one news. Why? Because murders were so rare in Paris. People were genuinely shocked. Paris was, by and large, an unusually safe city. People could, and did, walk everywhere at night.
We need to have that same fresh shock over every burglary and share our neighbors' pain when it happens to them.
And start calling our representatives' offices. And raise the rafters. Every. Single. Time. It. Happens.
Zero Tolerance for Thieves. Sting operation.
Arrest, and prosecute them, then send them to Drug Court if they meet the criteria.
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Peter the technology to do exactly what I suggested is available today. You have around 2,000 residents in HPP. If they each contibuted $2 you could buy the homing equipment without needing to beg or ask for help from the county.
It sounds like poeple there don't want to stop the crime they just want to complain about it. The combined wit and wisdom of the honest folks in Puna should be capable of outwitting a few low life thieves.
So tell me Peter, are you the only lonely one in HPP who is concerned about theft?
Assume the best and ask questions.
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