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Farm-bred octopus: A benefit to the species or an act of cruelty?
#11
(12-22-2022, 11:24 PM)kalianna Wrote: Yeah, I know.  But I expected better things from an LA Times staff writer.  And myself before I took the bait.  There are two sides to every story.  Well.... most stories.

Kudos to you for searching out the truth.  Most people believe the media lies as gospel.
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#12
I think the truth lies somewhere in between. Should cephalopods be held in captivity? We'll see what unfolds.
Certainty will be the death of us.
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#13
“To Serve Man”

Kanamit style I presume.
Puna:  Our roosters crow first!
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#14
Take the tour and find out for yourself. I thought it was great.
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#15
If you have Netflix I highly recommend a move called My Octopus Teacher. Very well done film.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Octopus_Teacher

"My Octopus Teacher is a 2020 Netflix Original documentary film directed by Pippa Ehrlich and James Reed, which documents a year spent by filmmaker Craig Foster forging a relationship with a wild common octopus in a South African kelp forest. At the 93rd Academy Awards, it won the award for Best Documentary Feature."


I was a volunteer diver at Monterey Bay Aquarium a long time ago and they had a big octopus. Highly intelligent and was an escape artist. Kept getting out and was found numerous times crawling around on the floor. I believe the installation of astroturf around the top of the tank finally worked at containment.
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(12-29-2022, 04:16 AM)HI_Someday Wrote: If you have Netflix I highly recommend a move called My Octopus Teacher. Very well done film.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Octopus_Teacher

"My Octopus Teacher is a 2020 Netflix Original documentary film directed by Pippa Ehrlich and James Reed, which documents a year spent by filmmaker Craig Foster forging a relationship with a wild common octopus in a South African kelp forest. At the 93rd Academy Awards, it won the award for Best Documentary Feature."


I was a volunteer diver at Monterey Bay Aquarium a long time ago and they had a big octopus. Highly intelligent and was an escape artist. Kept getting out and was found numerous times crawling around on the floor. I believe the installation of astroturf around the top of the tank finally worked at containment.


Thanks for the tip.  I added the documentary to our watchlist.

Interestingly, octopus can extract up to 40% of the oxygen it needs through the skin.  They have 3 hearts, two for the gills and a third that keeps the blood moving whether or not the gills have access to water.  While not terrestrial creatures, sometimes they can and do purposely move over land very short distances (from tidepool to tidepool) because of their ability to extract oxygen in their unique way.  There are also species that are transparent, with only the brain, eyes, and optic nerves being opaque.
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#17
I once caught a Giant Pacific octopus during a beach monitoring event in Washington State. It was in the low intertidal during a very low tide. After demonstrating it to fellow monitors I remembered it had a beak and eased it back into the water. The most salient thing to me about octopi, besides intelligence, it that their blood is copper based, rather than our iron. This helps them mitigate temperature and low oxygen extremes.
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#18
9 brains, blue blood, can use tools, recognize people.

"'I remember reading one about a lab where all the fish were going missing from their tank,' says Jon. 'The staff set up a little video camera and it turned out that one of the octopuses was getting out of its tank, going to the other tank, opening it, eating the fish, closing the lid, going back to its own tank and hiding the evidence.'"

https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/octopuses...s-how.html
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(12-29-2022, 04:16 AM)HI_Someday Wrote: If you have Netflix I highly recommend a move called My Octopus Teacher. Very well done film.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Octopus_Teacher

"My Octopus Teacher is a 2020 Netflix Original documentary film directed by Pippa Ehrlich and James Reed, which documents a year spent by filmmaker Craig Foster forging a relationship with a wild common octopus in a South African kelp forest. At the 93rd Academy Awards, it won the award for Best Documentary Feature."

I tried, but couldn't get into it.  The film dragged on and on about the filmmaker himself and the main theme seemed to have little to do with octopus.  After about 20 minutes I gave up watching it.  Maybe I was expecting more of an Attenborough type film.  The wife usually has more patience for these types of things and was the first to suggest we turn it off. But I appreciate the suggestion.
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#20
To quote my daughter, "Squids want to kill you. Octopuses just want to hang out".
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