proposed helco time of use rates

[Kapoho Joe]

"I like this renewable energy technology but I just don't think it helps our energy crisis". - Buillwinkle who needs some more coffee imho.

[Bullwinkle]

Thanks for your opinion as well

my statement still stands there is no free energy lunch - to make energy requires sacrificing something else in the environment at our current level of scientific understanding

electric vehicles will create pollution when they are charged was my point

helco wants to charge em after midnight - to reduce demand on the system, In the end any increase in electrical demand creates more pollution from increased electrical generation

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[tada]

If daytime the cheapest must be because of all the pv panels feeding back. I guess[?]

[Bullwinkle]

That is the way it seemed to read to me as well ..

[pahoated]

Peeps need to keep in mind, while they are in their computer chair ranting and raving, that Hawaii island is one of the most aggressive conversions to alternative energy on this planet. HELCO is moving towards a time not too far from now, of 75% alternative energy, about 15 cents/kw-hr for wind, 25 cents/kw-hr for solar, 10 cents/kw-hr for geothermal.

The graduated rates are a pretty good way to encourage use during the day and conserve at night. The problem for Hawaii island is this loading is completely opposite of an industrial region (which it isn't, thank goodness). Here, there is less demand during the day when low rate electricity is plentiful, big demand when people get home during the evening. The Hawaiian life.

"Aloha also means goodbye. Aloha!"

[windplr]

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Originally posted by kalakoa

the time-of-use rates were in effect

Requires a "smart meter", which in turn requires some kind of network infrastructure...

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Actually, it requires a meter that supports time of use. It could be a smart meter, or a conventional meter.

[Kapoho Joe]

The meters only become 'smart' when the utility companies want to save on labor costs...