Maku'u Drive

[HiloJulie]

"Question, where are they going to get the money to pave the main roads in "the next couple of years?""

Just a suggestion, but according to the HPPOA Audited Financial Statements, a total of $303,522 was spent on "Professional Services and Legal Fees" in 2024 and in 2023 a total of $264,578, for a combined total of $568,100.

That might be a good place to look at finding money.

[Patricia]

"....a total of $303,522 was spent on "Professional Services and Legal Fees" in 2024 and in 2023 a total of $264,578, for a combined total of $568,100."

Professional services have to do with the bond that was supposed to have paid in the paving of ALL the HPP roads, but did not. HPPOA is still paying that off.

And legal services, as you can see, are not broken down. So, exactly what those fees in legal services really are  (attorney opinions for 421J?  attorney opininions regarding bylaw changes? attorney opinions regarding current bylaw interpretation? etc.) is difficult to say. Not all of those legal fees (if that is what you are suggesting) are being spent on lawsuit costs. The board has insurance for lawsuits.

[Obie]

The bond will be paid off next year which will free up funds for more paving.

The CIP prepared by the Finance committee calls for 1 mile of main road to be paved in fiscal year 2025-2026.

I would imagine Makuu would be 1st and this is a reasonable goal. To save up and pave all of Makuu at once would create a huge traffic problem and I believe that should be avoided.

Even the County of Hawaii has a hard time paving 4 miles of road without it taking a year and causing huge traffic problems.

The CIP and all of the information I provided is available on the HPPOA. net website.

[Patricia]

I imagine 1 mile of road (on the mains) will exceed 1 million dollars. Especially as they will have to tear out the old 1" thick asphalt and dispose of it.

[KPHawaii]

Obie, you are 100% correct. No bond payment, no paving other roads, less in legal fees because deductibles have been paid, mail parks will be finished, new equipment has been purchased, old equipment has been repaired, speed measures will have been installed and paid for, and I’m sure other things I’ve not listed. All this should allow for the money needed for improvements on the main roads.

When repaving a road, there are generally two approaches: tearing out the existing road or paving over it.

1. **Tearing Out the Existing Road**: This involves removing the old pavement before laying down new material. It's often necessary if the underlying structure is damaged or if there are issues like potholes or major cracks that need addressing. This method ensures a more durable and long-lasting result.

2. **Paving Over the Old Road**: Also known as overlaying, this method involves adding a new layer of asphalt over the existing pavement. It's typically used when the current road is in relatively good condition but just needs a refresh. This can be a quicker and less expensive option, but it might not address underlying issues if the road is significantly damaged.

The choice between these methods depends on the condition of the existing road and the desired longevity of the new pavement.

[Obie]

A/C is recyclable so a contractor may grind it off and reuse it.

In Vacationland when we repaved, we left the original surface and put down a 2 inch overlay.

[Patricia]

A road expert, who was working on our road, stated that the pavement on Makuu "might be 1" thick." There are numerous issues with Makuu, aside from the "might be 1" thick." And while I'm not a road expert (the person I quoted was) I don't think "repaving" Makuu is an option. At least, not a good one

[TomK]

Also, not everyone who blows through stop signs, or runs into stone walls are "drug addled."

 

I didn't say they were.