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Mahalo, JayJay,
Your garden advice is always welcome. As for the economy, we temporarily avoided cataclysm last year with billions in taxpayer funds, dumped on the doorsteps of the Wall Street bankers and with a stimulus of the economy. But it doesn't look like it is going to be enough. I was in a small plane once when the pilot intentionally stalled it for my amusement. The engine went quiet and we pointed up briefly, and then we began the rush down to the ocean. I hear that same "sound", or lack of it, in the economy right now.
When they close the courts (and they have, for a day each month in California), we are in uncharted territory.
I have had a radical thought lately Perhaps the County should insist that agriculture be raised on agricultural lands, and that a tax benefit be given to those who do (carrot) or a less favorable tax rate to those who do not (stick).
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I think we're in uncharted territory right now and you're right... that's a radical thought about the needed direction of agriculture. We've certainly got the required land for grass root production yet we've been conditioned to eschew home-based production for the most part only to rely on an intrinsically falable supply-trail. I feel our isolation can be a two-edged sword. On the one hand, assuming the planet becomes caught up in a global situation, then being located on one of the most remote land forms on the globe would be highly beneficial, yet on the other, approaching nearly one-hundred years of corporate conditioning whereby a consumer mentality was incubated in preference to home-based production requirements spells the creation of a "lag-period"... should we become overtaken by any such calamity. To me this lag-period would be the amount of time it would take the collective consciousness of the island to both realize and to respond to the building of a viable grass roots agricultural system which would be capable of supplying the minimun requirements, here... on the B.I. This will take team work and hard... even very hard work to simply bring the base up to the minimal requirements assuming these events occur. >> Right now I'm very concerned about the 28th of this month and it may well be already written in stone...
I feel strongly that at some point, perhaps very soon, were going to thank our lucky stars that we're residing here at this point in human history. Sharpen you skills.
Thoughts?
Dr. W?
JayJay
JayJay
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Hello JayJay, {and everyone}
Not to divert any traffic from this forum, {truly} because I'm on the same page of thought thus I believe that the more people discussing food production and the basics of survival the better,
but you might also enjoy the community effort going on at SensibleSimplicity. @
http://sensiblesimplicity.lefora.com/
We're a fairly active community here on the East side of Hawaii that shares information about sustainable practices of food growing and other survival/life after restockable modern trappings, staples.
I personally feel that if more people were mentally and physically prepared, that it would equal less people consumed by initial panic. Which is going to be good for everyone.
Community community community!
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Liz/Hotzcatz
That is a great link. Thanks. I especially liked the idea of stuffing the chicken with Luau leaves and the Papaya seed salad dressing recipe. Anyone else here have a good recipe using papaya seeds?
I am planting new tomatoes and peppers now. Does anyone else here use the vining spinach? It is sold at Ace Hardware and the one I planted a few months ago is HUGE. I am starting using the leaves. It does not seem to be as good for salads as cooked. It was an experiment for me, but a good one!
Another thing I am doing is using Ti and Banana leaves for tamales... very good!
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Originally posted by Liz
Here's the link for what to plant each month in Hawaii. I got it ages ago, probably from you, Hotzcatz.
The time to plant is now!
http://www.organicgardening.com/feature/...08,00.html
aloha, Liz
"The best things in life aren't things."
Aloha au i Hawai`i,
devany
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