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Subdivision Covenants
#21
The tax people will come after vacation rentals that don't charge and pass on all the taxes that apply to vacation rentals. The zoning people are complaint driven, but they can, and sometimes do, go after people for having more than one dwelling on a property. Very few lots here can have a primary residence and a vacation rental on the same property legally. Most of the VRBO places in Puna are a single house on a single lot which is not a zoning issue, but may be a permit and tax issue. B&B's are a whole different regulatory deal and require specific business (not building) permits for that use.

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#22
Since you mention working on your music and recording, you should also acquaint yourself with the county laws about acceptable noise levels.

A lot of us live far from the city to enjoy the quiet; I would be bummed if someone moved next door and played loud music.

Of course, you may play acoustic guitar that can't be heard very far, and that wouldn't be an issue for you.

The thing I've noticed about laws and CCRs is that they usually come about in response to someone being rude/messy/noisy/unsafe and annoying or endangering other people.

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#23
Noise level for Ag-zoned land is 70db, 24x7x365.

Technically this makes all coqui frogs illegal.

CC&Rs are often part of the original subdivision as a way of "maintaining value" before the really obnoxious neighbors move in.
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#24
70 db is measured from where? I would imagine that would mean 70db outside of the property limit. If property is truly private than outsiders can't just dictate what you do inside, never the less whether you play acoustic or electric, piano or bassoon.

Anyway, I am looking to get acres of land so it would take a lot of noise to bother neighbors and I don't imagine I would be making that much noise. I have been playing music all my life and I know people play music on the Big Island because human beings have been playing music since the dawn of humanity or before. Do other giant apes play music? Surely they make some noise. Anyway recording studios and practice spaces are not usually out in the open. A halfway decent recording space or practice space is usually a sound proofed room. That is why you see sound engineers behind glass windows in the movies and such. They talk to the musicians through an intercom system because the room the musicians are in is sound proof. Even moniter speakers are usually placed on sound isolating pads so they don't reverberate through the furniture and walls in strange ways.

In fact I am producing music in a 500 sq ft. apartment right now and not once has anyone complained. I have even outright asked my neighbors if they hear me playing music when I work late. They say they never hear me.

So have I, in my whole life of playing music, ever contemplated what the city laws are about playing music? Nope

Will I consider doing so ever? absolutely not

If I am bothering my neighbors do I care? Yes I absolutely do and I will do what I can to make them comfortable.
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#25
I would check out the WaaWaa Sub. Then you could play your WaaWaa ! Seriously, off grid and very secluded and back to nature.
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#26
Based on hard experience I'd treat CC&Rs as more likely to cause you real headaches than County regulations, because in no way will the county harass you with such undying vigor and extreme prejudice as a pissed off member of a Homeowners Association will.

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#27
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Originally posted by waawaawah

I would check out the WaaWaa Sub. Then you could play your WaaWaa ! Seriously, off grid and very secluded and back to nature.


Waa Waa subdivision looks beautiful but it is expensive. Isn't it? Maybe I am looking at the wrong listings, but it seems for the same amount you can get more land the furthur you go upland.
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#28
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Originally posted by OpenD

Based on hard experience I'd treat CC&Rs as more likely to cause you real headaches than County regulations, because in no way will the county harass you with such undying vigor and extreme prejudice as a pissed off member of a Homeowners Association will.




That is basically the conclusion I am coming to. I think I may look into places like Hawaiian Acres, Orchidland, or HPP. Right now Hawaiian Acres seems the most ideal to me.

But, hey what do I know?
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#29
Some areas of hawaiian acres are better than others. If I had to buy in HA I would try to find something close to the Ainaloa road connection. Or maybe close to Hwy 11. Properties in the central part could be a pain to get to (bad roads). Orchidland has comparable prices. Maybe a little more but It's worth it because of the central location and easy access to Hwy 130.
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