GMO again (yet, still)

[kalakoa]

http://hawaiitribune-herald.com/news/loc...scientists

Given that UH is a State entity, and the PBARC is Federal, I'm surprised they haven't just claimed "supercedure" the way County does whenever it doesn't want to be inconvenienced by local laws.

[pahoated]

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Originally posted by kalakoa

http://hawaiitribune-herald.com/news/loc...scientists

Given that UH is a State entity, and the PBARC is Federal, I'm surprised they haven't just claimed "supercedure" the way County does whenever it doesn't want to be inconvenienced by local laws.

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The Hawaii County GMO Ban is a county law now, with infractions, enforcement, fees and fines, as any good bureaucratic law should. It is strange how the same people that complain bitterly all the time about government intrusion, turn right around and install more.

Since the Anti-GMO Law is in place, this is where the real money machine begins. Lawyers. UH and the fed can't just declare actions. So, while we wait to see how The County is going to enforce this law, everybody will be lawyering up. This newspaper article pointing out there are multiple non-exempt open GMO test fields, means the county now needs to take action on those illegal fields. What a huge waste of time and money, just another reason for research funds to go elsewhere. Was GMO research on preventing lettuce rot really going to kill me?

"This island Hawaii on this island Earth"

[kalakoa]

county now needs to take action on those illegal fields

Sure. Right after they do something about the unpermitted structures, unauthorized catchment tanks, unlicensed electrical installations...

[JohnDW]

Now that the first volley of law suits are launched the question might be: How to write county GMO regulations without running afoul of state and federal laws?

[kalakoa]

How to write county GMO regulations without running afoul of state and federal laws?

Regulations are written by and for lawyers so as to guarantee their future employment.

Monsanto (et al) have plenty of money to spend "fighting" a contentious law -- far more money than the farmers would make growing GMO produce.

(Federal/State "pre-emption" is only valid when the regulations are "inconvenient", such as with LLEP, otherwise this GMO "ban" would have been dismissed immediately.)

[pahoated]

Why think that more government is what is needed? How about making it a private industry marketing effort? Let these companies decide if they want to label or not, based on marketing surveys.

This doesn't work, to constantly complain about growing government and increasing tax burden, to turn around and keep wanting some more government added to fix private sector problems.

As long as people are going to hang on this slang term GMO, there is never going to be any understanding. There has been this phenomenon of large masses of humans being herded like cows, and this herding is totally voluntary. We have several of these movements now as history.

Think about this. The US spent $1 trillion (it doesn't have) to find and kill one man, Saddam. The reason given was yellow cake and centrifuge tubes, "evidence" of WMD. Vividly remembering that time, it was made clear that any opposing view would be met with extreme hostility. And look where we are going tomorrow. To keep using the term GMO is like being afraid of yellow cake and centrifuge tubes.

"This island Hawaii on this island Earth"

[kalakoa]

This doesn't work, to constantly complain about growing government and increasing tax burden, to turn around and keep wanting some more government added to fix private sector problems.

Point being: if government regulation is required, that effort need not be duplicated at every level of government. County was perfectly willing to take this position for LLEP.