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Gone from Public to Charter school?
#21
ok how about this:

I sent my child to x public school for x years. I discovered that public schools are "xyz" and so i moved my child to a charter school. This is the "abc" difference....

Or:
I never sent my child to public schools cause i heard "xyz"..therefore i choose a charter school based on "abc".

keeping in mind that yes they are all public...

for crying out loud if we can't even share our experience, strength and hope in this venture that we all feel so passionate about then how will change ever take place?
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#22
Aikahi -

It's a real touchy issue.

Reading about incidents like this and then thinking about how small this island really is, I realize why people might not want to speak up about things.[V]

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#23
But Damon..the more we speak up the more they will listen!!! [:0]
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#24
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Originally posted by aikahimomma

But Damon..the more we speak up the more they will listen!!! [:0]



Ok...what...need to dump my signature tomorrow?[:o)]

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#25
This is beyond cruel, really! 186 children just lost there school and you want us to say how great it WAS !!! You want us to recommend charter schools when they are under a witch hunt, so some other kids can get screwed too. Who are you working for lady?????
All the threads getting bumped, I guess you think that was a coincidence
You want us "all" in the overcrowded public schools????
Do you mind if our families grieve in peace.We are all really exhausted.
remove this thread.
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#26
huh?
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#27
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Originally posted by anela1111

186 children just lost there school


186 kids in those 2 HPP houses? Holy Crap!! [xx(]
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#28
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Originally posted by anela1111

This is beyond cruel, really! 186 children just lost there school and you want us to say how great it WAS !!! You want us to recommend charter schools when they are under a witch hunt, so some other kids can get screwed too. Who are you working for lady?????
All the threads getting bumped, I guess you think that was a coincidence
You want us "all" in the overcrowded public schools????
Do you mind if our families grieve in peace.We are all really exhausted.
remove this thread.


Someone emailed me and asked me if I thought the threads getting bumped were a coincidence.... I gave easygoing the benefit of the doubt. Now I have suspicion to believe otherwise.

I totally feel for the kids and families that lost there school. Venting about it and sending emails to people who have nothing to do with the closure does not help.

Please people of WOL.... I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR SCHOOL CLOSING!

Charter schools are not under a witchhunt as far as I know.

Charter schools are a great option to public schools...

I know that the first thing that many people do when moving into a region is to look at the schools available.

Some people are pissed off at Paradise because they moved to a place where the schools don't fit there needs and then get all pissed off at everyone for the simple reason that they didn't research the schools before they moved.

Others research the schools... realize they aren't going to be the greatest...and take that as one of the costs of living in Paradise.

Sheesh people....

I have to live on a complete different island so that I can work in my field and send my child to a paid preschool. Do I like living away from my Wife and Baby just so that my child can attend the school that we desire... nope... but I will do anything it takes for the best of my child... even if it means I can't be with my ohana right now and can only see them on weekends and holidays.




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#29
anella1111, My sincere apologies if this thread caused you any pain, I can't imagine the frustration and emotional upset your family must be going thru with your school shut down like that.

This thread is not about the school that was shut down, I'm just seeking truth in our education system in a general pubic vs charter way. No one has attacked any charter school in any kind of witch hunt fashion so far in this thread. I am asking about personal experiences in a specific situation.

This is a valid thread with valid questions, I came from the mainland thinking that my children would be placed in a extremely difficult situation where they were going to be attacked for being haoli, where there was awful education with teachers that didn't care. I had no choice but to put them into publics schools because the charter schools were full, and I was emotionally upset! Now to my surprise I find that my fears were largely unfounded. My daughter has less homework than what she got in Ohio, however my sons is similar - they came from an excellent rated public school. My son has been called haoli, however, it has not shattered his life, ( as I feared) and he dealt with it and has moved on making friends in his class. They both have adjusted well. and made friends.In the classes my kids are in they are not overcrowded, they are actually smaller classes than in Ohio.

These are my experiences, I asked to hear from others who had made the switch, to get some info on what their experiences were, so I could make an informed decision when/if the option became available to us.

I only work for my kids, I have no other job - no hidden agenda. I am just a mom. Well, Ok I'd better say my husband also or I'll get in trouble!

I'd bet I'm not the only mother going through these issues, whether here on the island or getting ready to move here from the mainland.

You can't see in the dark, I just wanted to shed some light on the issue.

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#30
I am currently a teacher in Boston at a charter school and am moving to the big island this summer. I have looked into both the public and charter schools and here is my honest take.

Changing the kids schools always robs them of at least 3 months of real education. Even if they are getting all their work in they are most focused on learning a new environment then they are learning math and science. I would say if your kids are self motivated learners they are going to get a good education no matter where they are. Especially if they have dedicated parents like yourself.

Charter schools are great schools, but they are designed to get at the more difficult learners. Many of them sacrifice academic proficiency in reading and writing or basic math skills to spend more time on inspiring the students. I love teaching at a charter. We have a lot of students who would not have been successful in any other environment, but I do look at some of my more advanced students and wish we spent more time with academic skills so they will be better prepared for college.

If you still are not sure I would say wait and see. If a spot becomes available take some time and visit the school (don't take the kids) they are going to try and show you all the great ways they include the students in all aspects of education, which is all great, but ask to see some student work, Ask to watch a class, look at the state test scores (although the tests are evil schools that push skills will always score higher) like anything the perfect school is one that is perfect for your kids.

Good Luck
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