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international energy conservation code
#31
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Originally posted by Bob Orts...
The second part says “protectionism”. What local products have advantages over normal commercial products?



I wasn't clear, sorry.

I was talking about reducing the distance of shipping which reduces the "carbon footprint" which reduces the energy usage overall. An example would be to use fallen ohia or koa trees, or bamboo for your flooring. It exists right here.

If 2000 new homes use a slightly more efficient product but it gets shipped 5000 miles, the overall gain is minimal.

I dont think we should eliminate using any product you can afford to pay for, but sometimes the issues of efficiency is blind to the whole picture such as the insulation issue.
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#32
FYI - Please try to attend

From: Whittington, Noelani
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 1:34 PM
Subject: DPW invites community to talk about energy code for buildings April 15 & 16





County Public Works Director Warren Lee and Howard Wiig, Institutional Energy Analyst for the Dept. of Business, Economic Development and Tourism will hold two talk story sessions.



Thursday, April 15-- Hilo

Aupuni Center, 5 p.m.





Friday, April 16 --Kona

Mayor’s office, Hanama Place , 5 p.m



With the move to toward energy- efficiency goals, the County of Hawai‘i replaced the building energy code with amendments to the International Energy Conservation Code (IECC) for new and renovated buildings, which the County Building Department planned to start enforcing May 11, 2010 under Ordinance No. 09-48, Bill 385, Draft 2, passed the Hawai‘i County Council.



The Hawai‘i County Council has Bill 234, Draft 2, before them to change the effective date from May 11, 2010 to January 1, 2011.





Noelani Whittington

Public Information and Community Outreach

Dept. of Public Works

cell: 808-557-6437/ ph: 808-961-8787/Fax 808-961-8630

101 Aupuni St. Ste. 7

Hilo, Hi 96720




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#33
Aloha All,

I have an update on the many happenings regarding Bill 234, introduced by Emily Naeole-Beason, to delay implementation of the 2006 IECC from May 11, 2010 to January 11, 2010 January 1, 2010.

First: The Mayor's Energy Commission moved and approved recommendation to the Mayor that he support bill 234. They voiced legitimate concerns during the discussion phase of the motion, in particular regarding the need for some sort of movement to be made on amending the code so it could be implemented. As it turns out, they had first hand knowledge there hadn't been the anticipated review and adjustment to the code that would make it Hawaii County applicable.

Second: Tonight, at Aupuni Center, Director Warren Lee and State representative from DBEDT, Howard Wiig, were present to discuss the 2006 IECC and its feasibility and application to Hawaii Island. The meeting started fairly promptly at 5 and was still going until just before 8P. There were a number of people in the audience who took the opportunity to logically and intelligently discuss several aspects of the law. Procedural application, technical application, necessity, interpretation, all covered. Chief among the concerns expressed was the exclusion of the simple statement that a non conditioned structure would be exempt from the code. When finally we arrived at the 'whys and wherefores' as to the rationale behind the removal of that simple statement we were left with a broader understanding. Apparently the State of Hawaii adopted a policy that requires all counties to adopt the code. Additionally, if changes were made to the code it had to be measured against whether or not it was equal to or greater than the standards set out in the State's policy, which is actually greater than that of the Federal Government! In other words, while the 2006 and 2009 IECC allows for exempted non conditioned structures, adopting the code as written somehow is lessor than the State's own policy 'model' standards. [Reference was made to HRS 107 in particular section 25-28] As you look over this section of HRS and the referenced section within you may notice no such statement requiring 'equal to or greater than'. Perhaps a wider net of research will reveal that particular language.

Though everyone offered excellent observations, arguments and articulated their concerns well. It became apparent that our biggest impediment to having a reasonable code here on our island is to take on the State. Finally, we realized we must move the focus from the local level to the state level. It was suggested this could best be done via a 'task force'. Convening a task force could establish the code -- as it currently stands -- is not feasibly or reasonably applicable to Hawaii county. This task force would lay out their proof in data; submit fitting amendments and then begin the process towards the state's Building Codes Committee for ratification. What was clearly evident to the audience, though the government reps could not admit or advocate the same, was the veracity of bill 234 was self evident. A delay in implementation is in order with the development of some sort of body composed of industry professionals to tackle the issues raised at last week's County Council meeting, the Energy Commission's monthly meeting today and the 'Talk Story' tonight.

The second reading of this bill is next Tuesday. At this point, it would be most surprising to find anyone on the council who would not support the delay in implementation AND the appointment of some body to address the obvious.

As it turns out, not only did the original passage of this bill not make it into the paper, it also did not catch the eye of anyone who was part and parcel of the process a year ago who was charged with making the amendments that would fine tune the codes for Hawaii Island. The Energy Commission's sub committee, who had some interaction with the process, tacitly acknowledged they too let the year slide by with no action.

“A penny saved is a government oversight.”
"Q might have done the right thing for the wrong reason, perhaps we need a good kick in our complacency to get us ready for what's ahead" -- Captain Picard, to Guinan (Q Who?)
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#34
Just a note that Daniel Bona and I were discussing, this will affect all "as-builts" aka unpermitted structures.
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