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Seriously[?]
Is hunting banned or so regulated where Hawiian hunters can't control the animal population?
What a paradise for a bow hunter.
Hogs, Cows, Chickens, Deer, and others just running wild, ready for somebodys freezer! [
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Rick
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People hunt, but when the critters make their way into the subdivisions you can't go all Yosemite Sam on them around people's homes.
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Trapping? But that probably will entail catching the neighbors dogs and cats too. Hey maybe not a bad thing.[
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Seriously, I do get it about shooting around peoples homes, and I used to hunt and know the rules and how to be safe and not kill anybody. I just know if there were feral cows here in Iowa, I would have a new freezer full of meat, wait....I already have a freezer full of meat! [:p]
I thought I may start hunting again after we move. I would like to bow hunt actually, which is a bit safer than rifle/shotgun hunting but still deadly if you are an idiot.
First cow I get we will have a big cookout.
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If you look at the Big Island on Google Earth, most of it is forest, and most of the subdivisions are surrounded by that forest. There is hunting allowed (check with DLNR)in the state forests, and occasionally cattle, or a group of cattle will break out from one of the ranches and get on to state land. But even with all of the hunters, rifle & bow, there are still feral beasts that cross into the subdivisions. I can't tell you how many wild boar I've seen in Paradise Park over the years. Well, I could tell you, but then there'd be yet another bore loose on the general population...
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Hunting is seriously restricted, in bag limits and what weapons you can use where. When a bill was introduced last year to loosen those, it was the hunters' associations that lobbied to shoot it down. They don't want to control the population at all, they want as many as possible out there! Add to that, at HOTPE mentioned, how big the forests are, and you can see how difficult it is to actually reduce the populations. It was estimated that you could remove 40% of the pigs every year and not have any effect on the numbers.
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Rick...feral cows are also not gentle little Iowa bessies...Being from Illinois, I felt much as you...but hunting feral cattle is tough...It is hard to image how tough until you talk to Jack Jeffries about the work Hakalau Natural Reserve had to do to empty their 'ungulate free' areas from cattle (it had been range land & the previous owner had stated they had 'pretty much' empty the range of cattle...) well over 500 head have been taken down...
The initial thoughts by most were to allow open hunting, but hunters only got a small fraction of the cattle...pretty much the "easy pickins".. then to sharpshooter, with the idea of donating the meat...but the cost of removing even field dressed carcasses was very high -as most of the area is chuck full of steep gullies & flash wash areas... helicopters were the only thing to get the meat out...making a high price for a fairly tough meat good for grinding, at the price per pound of the most expensive filet on the menu.... after a few tries they chucked that idea & just felled them in place & left them (there were reasons to & not to do that, but the economics always ended up with how hard it is to move the carcasses...)
Study on Hakalau feral pig removal:
http://hilo.hawaii.edu/hcsu/documents/hc...nalpdf.pdf
One thing I have come to appreciate is some of my fellow classmates, younger surfer looking grad students, who will surprise you with their game pictures - rodeo & sharp shooting are very popular sports for both the males & females - & more than a few times I have been taken aback at the some of these students are taking down...and I have been on some of the game trails..many are sharp lava boulder paths for miles, weaving in & out of rough tangles forest & though deep gully washes & swamps...most are barely 4WD ATV. and some are by foot only....
Here is a link to a NYTimes article on pig hunting on Oahu, which I have heard is easier than here (added at least the pics are of easier trails):
http://travel.nytimes.com/2013/05/19/tra...l?emc=eta1&_r=1&
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I hear gun shots regularly around Eden Roc - I assume someone's shooting at a pig.
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I remember reading years back about a lost hunting party in Eden rock
where one of the rescue team fell in to a large puka lava tube
this man knew what he was doing and yet he fell something like
100 feet . Got hurt bad!
Every time my husband talks about hunting , I remind him of this story!
If something walks into our yard then he can hunt it, so far only chickens
and mongoose are bold enough we did see a baby pig one morning
but who could kill a cute little pig it just sqeeked away.
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Originally posted by Wuzzerdad
What a paradise for a bow hunter.
Hogs, Cows, Chickens, Deer, and others just running wild, ready for somebodys freezer!
Don't forget about dogs. Especially pit bulls in their natural habitat: public streets. Though I seriously doubt their owners would make good eating, shooting them is certainly an option too. Good hunting...
-- rainshadow
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