Fire in Puako!

[Menehune]

I and several other Punawebbers are very sensitive to fires at this time and the idea of arson P***es me OFF!

My family in Santa Clarita was endangered by an arson started fire in N.Los Angeles.

What flowing lava and nature burning Ohia forests isn't enough for some people?

They have to endanger lives and property.

Hope they catch'em.Then what will they do to them - slap their hand with a fine and probation?

O.K. - count to ten! Need to switch from coffee to green tea.

Story Here:
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/articl...92681.html

Joey "O"


Edited by - menehune on 10/28/2007 11:27:38

[mella l]

During my entrapment in San Diego earlier this week it was interesting to compare newspaper and television coverage with radio coverage. No mention of arson in the newspapers or on television from Sunday thru Tuesday, however the radio mentioned arson on Monday. I think this was an attempt to avoid feeding the egos of arsonists, also to not spur copy cat type arsonists on. By Wednesday afternoon when the fire suppression was in full force and the weather was cooperating, we escaped north. The television started identifying specific fires as arson as did the newspapers, on Wednesday. These fires began on Sunday afternoon, by Sunday evening the town of Ramona was evacuated, and subsequently most of it burned.

By Wednesday looters were loading up the belongings of evacuated peoples homes.

It is interesting to note that an arsonist was shot and killed when caught setting a fire and speeding away from the site then failing to halt for a sheriff.

Somehow thru this trauma of magnitude, I have developed the opinion that arsonists and looters could be shot and it wouldn't bother my conscience at all. I hate having that opinion, but that is the one I now am dealing with.

Nature is nature and lava is lava, understanding that we bought property on a live volcano, but human evil is beyond my understanding.

I hope your family is safe Joey, and that the trauma of fire will lift soon.

mella l

[missydog1]

this upsets me no end ...
do you guys know this is not a new development?
There have been arson fires around this area for at least 4-5 years. It was happening when I moved to Waikoloa Village back in 2002.

Then this year the arson activity has intensified.
Waikoloa Village has been seriously threatened a few times now and hundreds or even thousands of acres of brush have burned in South Kohala.

Maybe this stuff isn't followed that much by the Punatics because it's on the west side?

My son, DIL, and little grandson live in the Village, so it's very personal to me.

At the time I lived in Waikoloa Village we had a fire that was close enough to our house to see the flames. We didn't evacuate because the wind was blowing away from us, but we watched it all afternoon. It was over near the school on Paniolo drive, in a gulch.

Anyway, one reason I didn't like living there was the Village had a large population and only one road out, then if Waikoloa Rd got cut off above and below it would be bad. In response to the fire threat, there is now an escape road for evacuation, so that's some progress.

I hope and pray they catch whoever's doing this, and soon.

Edited by - KathyH on 10/28/2007 17:05:18

[Bob Orts]

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It is interesting to note that an arsonist was shot and killed when caught setting a fire and speeding away from the site then failing to halt for a sheriff.

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This is a very devastating, emotional, traumatic and freighting situation. However, we need to face the situation with facts, otherwise, we are just as guilty of spreading the fear the arsonist reap upon society. The individual shot and killed by the San Bernardino deputies was not an arsonist, nor is he suspected of being an arsonist, nor was any material found giving rise to any suspicion that arson was suspected. This was an emotionally disturbed individual with a history of problems. Because of the jittery nature of everyone, the need to make sense of all this, the desire to make it end, and a tragic outcome of a police altercation, suddenly everyone is seeing arsonist behind every tree. We’re too intelligent for that.

[Beachboy]

this stuff is very disturbing for me. For the love of God, and everything he has created. What the hell is wrong with these people(arsonist)?
I could never figure out how these fire setting "Butt Worms" could get their 'Trouser Trouts' in an uproar over destroying nature, or someones personal belongings & life? I just don't get it?

Handle every situation like a dog,If you can't eat it or hump it,piss on it and walk away...

[Bob Orts]

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this stuff is very disturbing for me. For the love of God, and everything he has created. What the hell is wrong with these people(arsonist)?
I could never figure out how these fire setting "Butt Worms" could get their 'Trouser Trouts' in an uproar over destroying nature, or someones personal belongings & life? I just don't get it?

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We created arsonist by relegating it to the class of innocent "normal behavior". Arsonists are not viewed by the people as a serious problem. Only when it impacts an individual or becomes a media circus, do people suddenly see it as something wrong.

I can still remember once when an arsonist was on the prowl burning garbage piles all over town. Everyone was freaking and calling for federal troops to converge on the area. I wouldn't have been surprised if they demanded the death penalty for setting a mattress on fire in a vacant lot when the person was caught. Of course when the arsonist group was caught and it turned out to be the local high school jocks, suddenly it was just an innocent adolescence prank by a bunch of good boys who were just doing what kids do. They were arsonist when they set the fire, so what changed?