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We paid $550 OW for first class UA Hilo to LAX.
Got us 4 70# bags/(boxes in our case) for free and a couple of bailey's & coffee on board.
UA's fc is okay but Hawaiian's is better.
Note: I was totally impressed with UA's Petsafe program. They essentially get their own flight attendant! There were also 5 other "pet friends" flying in petsafe area! << When we picked him up she was right there with him and talking baby talk to him! Wish I had a pic to send to UA and thank them!
Our little guy could not go in cabin (although had been told he could if under 35# - him and carrier and under the seat but that is not for in/out of Hawaii)
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Originally posted by HereOnThePrimalEdge
Another tip, try not to sit in the back of the plane. The fuselage narrows, and to accommodate the seating pattern they need to narrow the width of those seats. No legroom and no elbow room.
With all due respect, Primal Edge, your last paragraph is (mostly) not true. The width and pitch of the seats in the back rows of the plane are exactly the same as the "forward" seats of the main (coach/economy) cabin. However, as the fuselage tapers towards the tail of the aircraft, there is a definite perception that there's a bit less elbow room (for those seated next to a window). Of course, if you're seated in the very last row, there's a good chance that the seatback will not recline and, if it does, it may recline just a few degrees at best. Finally, and a bit of trivia, back in the days of the DC-10 and L-1011 wide-body planes, the rear of the fuselage narrowed so dramatically that there was typically one or two fewer seats abreast in the last 2-3 rows (but the seats themselves were the same width as the ones in front). Been flying for many years...my first flight (as a child) was on a Lockheed Constellation! Aloha!
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The width and pitch of the seats in the back rows of the plane are exactly the same as the "forward" seats of the main (coach/economy) cabin.
You may be right, I've never seen any measurements to compare seat width differences. I did fly in the rear section of the United Hilo to LA flight once and it seemed particularly cramped. The next flight I checked out Seat Guru and found this comment about the last three rows of seats:
"reduced seat width due to the curvature at the tail of the plane."
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/United_...-800_B.php
Now, it should be noted that Seat Guru is a Trip Advisor site, so not sure where they found their info, or how accurate it is.
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Originally posted by HereOnThePrimalEdge
You may be right, I've never seen any measurements to compare seat width differences. I did fly in the rear section of the United Hilo to LA flight once and it seemed particularly cramped. The next flight I checked out Seat Guru and found this comment about the last three rows of seats:
"reduced seat width due to the curvature at the tail of the plane."
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/United_...-800_B.php
Now, it should be noted that Seat Guru is a Trip Advisor site, so not sure where they found their info, or how accurate it is.
That is very, very interesting, indeed! Then again, I may be wrong. Aside from my own personal experiences, my original statement was also based upon info from many close friends who work at Boeing. Seat Guru is a well-respected source, so I would be inclined to favor their comments as closer to the truth.
I think all would agree that the very last row on any airplane generally sucks. Unless you're at an airport (like Kona) where the aft door is used for boarding and deplaning, you'll be among the last persons off the plane. Many fearful flyers intentionally choose the rear section/seats as they believe that it's the part of the fuselage that is most survivable in a crash.
Thanks for the comment and clarification, Primal Edge.
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Here is a link to a charter service showing fuselage width.You can't get any seats in an airplane than this.
http://www.aircharterservice.com/aircraf...-400800900
I was an aircraft mechanic for 41 years and never saw any seats that were not standard width.
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Doesn't seem to make sense cost wise to have to manufacture a separate set of seats just for the back of the plane.
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Getting back to topic... Alaska airlines is having great deals to the west coast from Kona with $189.00 one way fares to Oakland and $199.00 one way fares to both San Jose and Seattle!
Click on the link below and then click on the "choose city" button and click on Kona.
https://www.alaskaair.com/content/deals/...re-flights&INT-_AS_NAV_-prodID:FareSales
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Prices have gone up. Hawaiian RT Hilo to San Jose was $456 4 days ago, so I booked, afraid they were just going to rise. Then a few hours later, prices dropped to $417. So I cancelled (within the 24 hour period) & booked the $417.
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American Airlines might consider changing their name to Sardine-can Airlines.
They're reducing legroom on new planes down to 29" on three rows of seats, and to 30" in the rest of the economy section.
Delta & United are at 30"-31", Alaska Airlines is 31"-33".
Best to check your plane's seat configuration before booking long flights.
http://jezebel.com/american-airlines-pla...1794875082
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Holy Thread revival!!! Sheesh... Bringing back a reply for a two year old thread, ****, I thought Pahoated was posting again...
