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Pump problems :(
#1
Aloha,
We are having (another) problem with our water pump and hoping somebody with some knowledge on the subject has a diagnosis. When it is running, it "cuts out" about every 10 seconds. By "cutting out" I mean you can hear it stop for a split second and the pressure drops. I timed it and it is pretty much every 10 seconds. Other than that the pressure is fine. Our tank is definitely not empty (thank you very much February flooding). We just changed the filters a couple weeks ago.

It is a Grundfos model with the integrated pressure tank. Before somebody says it, yes I know that is not the ideal way to go. I already plan on replacing it at some point with a model that has a much larger seperate pressure tank, but it came with the house, is maybe 2 years old and can't justify replacing it if it still works.

We previously had a problem where it died, which we found out was due to a capacitor burning out. We found out the reason for it burning out was that the filters that were in place when we moved in were way too restrictive and the pump was working way too hard to move the water through them. So anyways after much wasted time trying to find out what was wrong we figured out it was luckily just a $10 part and some new filters.

So again, if anybody is knowledgable about these pumps and knows why it is skipping/cutting out that would be much appreciated.

Mahalo.
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#2
I have the same system as you do Adam. I was wondering how old your system is. Mine has been in full service for a little over a year and has been working fine. I don't know if I could go back to a pressure tank system as I enjoy the constant pressure when showering[Big Grin]


PS. I did send you an email through Punaweb. Let me know if it didn't come through.

Royall

What goes around comes around!


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#3
The house was finished in 2005 but I am pretty sure we were the first full-time residents. So at the very oldest it is 3 years old. From what I have been told the integrated pressure tank has a much lower life expectancy because they are running anytime water is needed even if it is just a faucet trickling. As far as the pressure goes it works pretty good, though I don't have experience with the pressure tank system for a comparison. On another note, I have been told that I may require a pressure tank if I end up putting in a tankless water heater. If anybody can speak on the pros and cons of each type of pump that would be cool too.

Royall, no sorry I did not get your email. I checked my spam folder even. I just updated my profile to make sure I can receive emails so can you try again? Thanks.
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#4
Sorry the note didn't get through to you Adam. I'll try again. As far as using the system you have with a tank less water heater goes, it works good. That is what I have in our home. I went with the Takagi jr gas fired. Haven't had a bit of problem with the set up.

Royall

What goes around comes around!

PS. The message I had sent was just an offer to buy the old pump when you change over. I figured it would be nice to have a back up if this pump goes down.


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#5
Is this Grundfos pump an on-demand pump, without a pressure tank? The symptom sounds similar to a jet pump with a pressure tank where the bladder in the tank has a leak. But if this system doesn't have a pressure tank, I don't know what would cause the 10 second intermittent pumping.

Royall, we have a pressure tank system and don't feel the pressure drop in our shower.
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#6
Is the pressure switch actually cutting in and out or is the switch internal and you can't watch it? If you have a bypass around your filter or an outlet before the filter it would be interesting to see if it still does it while using one of those. How far is the pump pushing?

Good luck,

Scott
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#7
The pump is in fact an on-demand pump. No unfortunately I can't see the switch. It doesn't have to push very far at all since it is under the house almost directly under the master bath. It does have to "pull" however maybe 50 feet or so from the tank if that. The tank is elevated about 3 feet as well so it is gravity-assisted to some extent.

Any suggestions? I appreciate the responses.
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#8
Adam, perhaps it is a thermal cutout from a possible restricted suction line causing the pump motor to overload, could the foot valve at the bottom of the tank be restricted or have allowed passage of say some algae that has infiltrated the pump screen causing a restriction there ??

here is a setup / trouble shooting guide that may help note the discharge and pressure tank settings are critical......

http://www.us.grundfos.com/web/download....2005A3546/$File/Jpi&o.pdf

Aloha HADave & Mz P

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