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Speaking of social experimentation...
#11
LeeE,

>When I look at studies, the first thing I notice is who conducted them

So do I. That's why I linked to wikipedia and not cannabismd!

You're right, that section of wikipedia didn't have a reference. Following
that is a whole section on the effects on driving but it's also a bit of a mess.

>Btw, no one argues for impaired driving.

Agreed. But your specific mention of a drink-driving fatality followed
by a mention of "the safer choice" makes me wonder what you meant.
The safer choice is to not alter your perception of reality before
you direct a ton of metal and glass down the street at 50mph.

That Marinol statement is very interesting.
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#12
PaulW,

Didn't cannnamd site list HSTA & other fed agency studies?

If you tend not to trust govt. studies, (me neither), there's plenty of private ones from the likes of Kaiser, ect. looking into aspects of pot stuff. Israel's done some good research too.

Comprende about my "safe choice" remark. It was vague, (my scientific speciality).

I was referring to two things. One is that cannabis is less debilitating than alcohol, but the more relevant one is that pot makes most people more cautious, while alcohol makes people more confident, even though they may be plowed.

If the drunk gentleman had taken the "safe choice", he may not have wanted to get behind the wheel. I've seen that plenty of times and it's common knowledge discussed widely on da web.

I wish people wouldn't drive impaired, period and there are ways to address that problem. I see drunk drivers on our roadways regularly and I'll be the rest of us here in Puna do as well.

btw, The knowledge base re. related stuff is now at breathtaking levels, (positive health related in particular for cannabinoids), but goes largely unreported in the news. Thanks to the gatekeepers, there is a huge knowledge gap and as we all know, it's not just re. hemp related issues.

I don't want to discuss it, but I'd like to mention that my response to 9/11 has been to try and learn as much as I can about the events surrounding that day. That's just how, as best I can, I try and approach problems.

When I see the news about Israel's most famous and celebrated spy go unreported here, along with the financial 9/11 style attack that happened here last year on Sept. 11th, I just shake my head.

Been doing that, (shaking my head), a lot over the last eight years, which is probably why I have a crink in my neck. Out damned crink!

How can they not tell people about that? That financial attack, although national and international in scope, would've affected us all here, as it was stopped within hours of bringing down the US and world economy.

Google this if that interests anyone...

"Rep. Paul Kanjorski, (D, Penn) Chairman of the House’s Capitol Markets Subcommittee recently admitted on C-SPAN that the current economic problems faced by–not just the United States, but indeed the entire world–were the result of an “electronic run on the bank” that resulted in the hemorrhaging of $550 billion dollars in just “an hour or 2”...."

I tell you, when the going gets weird, the weird may turn pro, but we mo bettah cause lucky we live Hawaii.


Lee Eisenstein
http://members.cruzio.com/~lionel/event

"Be kinder than necessary, as everyone you meet is engaged in some kind of strudel."
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#13
Really, what do you think is more likely, that the world's media is conspiring to hide this story,
or that Kanjorski made a mistake? The fact that he doesn't mention it in any of the press releases
on his own website should give a clue.

Please tell more about the Israeli spy.
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#14
Watch him on youtube.com and judge for yourself. He talks at length about it on CNN, so it's hard to imagine he misspoke. He's the Capitol Markets Subcommittee Chair, so if he's mistaken, we probably would have heard about it.

"CSPAN Rep Paul Kanjorski Reviews the Bailout Situation"

Israeli's famous spy story doesn't have anything to do with Puna, but here's a link to the N.Y. Times piece.

<www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/world/middleeast/19lebanon.html?_r=2&hp>

Say, this vog is really junk!

Ciao.
Lee Eisenstein
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"Be kinder than necessary, as everyone you meet is engaged in some kind of strudel."
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#15
LOL, Marinol - when I worked at a hospital, the Marinol swag (mugs, etc) were highly prized. We all thought it was funny that something that we could be tested for (and therefore discharged) was a prescription drug.

John Dirgo, R, BIC, EcoBroker, ABR, e-PRO
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#16
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Originally posted by jdirgo

LOL, Marinol - when I worked at a hospital, the Marinol swag (mugs, etc) were highly prized. We all thought it was funny that something that we could be tested for (and therefore discharged) was a prescription drug.

John Dirgo, R, BIC, EcoBroker, ABR, e-PRO
Aloha Coast Realty, LLC
808-987-9243 cell
http://www.alohacoastrealty.com


Wow! Hang on to those mugs & swag (tee shirts, ashtrays?).**S**
Lee Eisenstein
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"Be kinder than necessary, as everyone you meet is engaged in some kind of strudel."
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