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To the Candidates, What will you do to fix the new
#41
I don't buy the "I am old so I don't care" mentality. If you have children (and grandchildren) the new code has a real effect on you. Perhaps not as a business but as a parent who cares about the future for your child and everyone else.
Yes the process takes time, in this case almost two years of "this is wrong" testimony. It all fell on deaf ears. Why should I blame the Feds ?
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#42
Don't think I don't care and I do have children. I think we can and should be building homes that last generations, not till the last mortgage payment is made.

What I said was that the new codes don't really affect my business. If it was up to me the codes would be stricter and broader and actually enforced evenly. I don't like seeing poorly build homes sold for too much money. If it was up to me it would be legal for a home owner to do their own electrical and plumbing work.

But it's not up to me and frankly isn't really up to the council in any practical way.
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#43
The needing licensed contractor for owner builder is a big one, you could take 10K right off the top of building a small home- inspect it all the same because ive seen the kids licensed contractors have running jobs botch it worse. I know that would not get past the union lobbyists but maybe if you limit the exemption to off grid homes it might get past. and that would be a double plus

There needs to be a code but one with heath and safety as a priority and uniformly enforced. there are kids living in shacks and tents

and I've probably said all this before

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#44
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Originally posted by Seeb

The needing licensed contractor for owner builder is a big one . . . I know that would not get past the union lobbyists . . . and I've probably said all this before

Perhaps, but it bears repeating. If it passes inspection and is up to code, what difference does it make who installs it? This whole element of the permitting process is designed to keep a small, well connected group of businesses in control of a vital segment of construction.

As for the recently passed building code, there are numerous elements of it which have no relevance whatsoever to conditions on the ground here in Hawaii. Add the past, current, and likely future lack of meaningful code enforcement outside the permitting inspection process, and it just gets curioser and curioser. If it's all just window dressing to pacify the Feds, somebody should say so. Then we'll all know it's just one more of many laws around here that they choose not to enforce.
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#45
What Jerry said. Ditto.
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