Kolekole beach park rope swing

[kalakoa]

the "Some of these people choose this as a lifestyle" comments used here and elsewhere to justify not helping

Same rationale is used to justify doing nothing about the condition/lack of roads, convenient shopping, etc. Homeless are just another "choice", right?

[beejee]

@shockwave

IMO you captured the larger issue. There are certainly "classes" of homelessness. I don't think anyone on PunaWeb will argue with you on the merits of supporting those homeless that legitimately need help. However, the reality is that there is another class of homeless - the ones that choose to be there - the ones that choose to spend all the money given to them for alcohol - the ones that **** on the street!! The bad apple spoils the lot.

We see these "bad-apple" patterns frequently - the extremists of the group vs. the larger constituent of the group. I think this "bad-apple" pattern has also presented itself with respect to the TMT.

Thanks shockwave for your perspective as I think you totally nailed it.

[EightFingers]

I don't relish the idea of swinging at the end of a rope. . .

[dakine]

the ones that choose to spend all the money given to them for alcohol

That's a fantasy imo. Alcoholics rarely choose to do anything. They're addicts and making the choice to quit is agonizing and practically impossible without a massive amount of support. If they are homeless and spending all their money on alcohol they are way out there, miles and miles from making choices methinks. Though I agree shockwave nailed it.