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the reality of Hawaii's fake MMJ program
#41
I fully agree with this position. In fact, the new laws are trying to put a crimp in the black market, but instead they are just making the black market bigger and more profitable. What they (the legislators) have done is create laws that are so complex and costly to comply with that the dispensary program will never be financially viable and thus fail and we will be back to black market purchases. They have based the new law on Colorado's Recreational Marijuana laws where they have a very large commercial demand. If our new laws are to be successful, let's legalize recreational use and give the dispensary system a chance to work along with these ridiculous laws.
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Originally posted by kalakoa

http://www.civilbeat.com/2015/12/interim...es-posted/



I haven't actually run the numbers, but a back-of-the-napkin sketch suggests that medical marijuana will simply not be able to compete (on price) with the black market.


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#42
create laws that are so complex and costly to comply with that the dispensary program will never be financially viable and thus fail and we will be back to black market purchases

This way, the new dispensary laws can be used as a bludgeon against the black market, with enhanced penalties for everyone who "should have gotten a permit".

As written, the electricity cost per gram produced will exceed the black market price, before even accounting for the permit fees, building lease, etc.

I also suspect that the reciprocity clause was included as a "gimme", as this allows one or more lawsuits about "interstate commerce" and/or "Federal pre-emption" -- and these lawsuits only have to delay the program a year, until the next President changes the Federal marijuana posture...
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#43
What? A Hawaii state government operation that was poorly planned, poorly administered, and doomed to fail from the start? Say it ain't so!
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#44
"I haven't actually run the numbers, but a back-of-the-napkin sketch suggests that medical marijuana will simply not be able to compete (on price) with the black market."
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It was never intended to. It was all about how much tax revenue they thought they could steal from people that wouldn't otherwise have made those illegal purchases.
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#45
Well, the application period for Dispensaries has begun. It will be interesting to see how many applications there will be from the Big Island. The requirements are so repetitiously complex that few will qualify. Probably only those who have commercial ventures Island wide can meet the qualifications and who of those will be interested?
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#46
There is also the little matter of a $5000 non-refundable license application fee. It means bidders are ready to write that off as a wash if they don't get one of the licenses. Isn't Hawaii island the only one that is going to have two licenses? The system the legislature came up with is about as close to saying "we don't want it" without saying, we don't want it. No mention about how the qualification decision is going to be made either *cough*bribe*cough*.
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/28975...l-approved
"A $5,000 non-refundable fee would be required to apply for a license."

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#47
Luckily, have a unique opportunity here to help set precedence for medical marijuana collectives in Hawaii with the recent Mike Ruggles arrest. Collectives are like the farmers markets of the medical cannabis industry while the mega-dispensaries are obviously like the Walmarts, (for more information check out:http://hawaiimarijuanacollective.com/dispensaries-vs-collectives/

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#48
help set precedence for medical marijuana collectives

Not with this kind of legislature:

"All patients must purchase from dispensary (possibly with price regulation or public assistance for those who can't afford it)"

http://www.westhawaiitoday.com/news/loca...-marijuana

"Monitor and track all doctors who prescribe marijuana"

http://www.westhawaiitoday.com/news/loca...physicians

The status quo was fine for 15 years ... suddenly everyone wants more regulation.
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#49
Oshiro's Bill is deplorable. I hope it never makes it out of committee. But it just might. Politics in Hawaii have ensured that the game and its slimy players are protected. 13,000 MM patients forced to purchase from dispensaries. Add to that the droves of MM tourists from 23 legal MM states whose cards will be honored by a reciprocity provision in the law. That my friends, will equate to a LOT OF $$$$$$$$$$. Truth be the truth, it is all about money and protecting the money of political friends. All over again.
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#50
http://www.westhawaiitoday.com/opinion/c...ana-stigma

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