roundabout ... delayed

[Eric1600]

Here's the last "meeting" regarding the roundabout

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ngNACDlmro

The subject of the wrong programming of the stop light and the issue of working at night is mentioned, so it's not like it hasn't been pointed out.

[Kapoho Joe]

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Originally posted by Eric1600

Here's the last "meeting" regarding the roundabout

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ngNACDlmro

The subject of the wrong programming of the stop light and the issue of working at night is mentioned, so it's not like it hasn't been pointed out.

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It's been pointed out several times and several ways. They just don't care.

[Guest]

Tomk, good morning to you.
No reason to apologize for some good out-of-the-box thinking, Your idea is a good one in most places. Unfortunately just as you astronomers know working atop maunakea, a rainy night can lead to poor visibility and working performance for both crews and materials like concrete. Here on the east side of the island the rain moves in fast and often, which can catch the working crews off guard with several asphalt or concrete trucks just waiting around to be poured or wasted. jmo.

On the flip side I like your way of thinking, other outside-of-the-box-ideas may be needed. Because we stand to see a few more years plus of new road contruction on this part of the island.

[Lodestone]

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Originally posted by TomK

How about a really wacky idea? The roadwork takes place at night, just like other places.

1) No oppressive heat and humidity to handle;

2) No long delays for commuters.

Apologies for the out-of-the-box thinking. Clearly an insane idea. Cue more Kalakoa whinging.

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That notion actually came up during the roundabout meeting/riot; the response was that the frequent and unpredictable nighttime rains in Puna made pouring asphalt, etc., problematic. (It was noted that they DO conduct road work at night elsewhere on the Island.)

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

How about a really wacky idea?
The roadwork takes place at night, just like other places.
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Apologies for the out-of-the-box thinking.

First let me say, I think night work is a good idea too.

Second, really Tom? Coming from an astronomer on the night shift, the suggestion for the road crew to work at night as well... it's not exactly out-of-the-box thinking is it? Maybe in-the-dome thinking, but dome thinking when it concerns a roundabout is probably better anyway.

Third, my own personal theory as to why the construction guys won't work at night: An episode of Dog the Bounty Hunter where:

The team pursues a fugitive over volcanic mountains and into the wilds of Puna, Hawaii.

Dog & crew suited up in full Kevlar body armor, then proceeded to get lost in deepest, darkest, albizia shrouded Puna. Some viewers, most likely roundabout construction workers as well, have never forgotten that segment, and are still afraid to step foot in Puna after the sun goes down.

A quick internet search about Dog's near death brush with Puna residents once he made the mistake of turning off Highway 130 reveals comments like:
Dog the Bounty hunter TV show for June 23 showed the area I stayed in over the xmas holiday this pass year. Yep Puna area of the Big Island is country and lucky Dog did not get fired on by the locals. Everyone in that part of the woods have hunting rifles or pistol.

Yikes!

"How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives." -Annie Dillard

[ScottRAB]

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Originally posted by pahoated

Except this isn't a roundabout.

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What is it then?
Many people confuse other and older styles of circular intersections with modern roundabouts. East coast rotaries, large multi-lane traffic circles (Arc D’Triomphe, Dupont Circle), and small neighborhood traffic circles are not modern roundabouts. If you want to see the difference between a traffic circle, a rotary (UK roundabout) and a modern roundabout (UK continental roundabout), go to http://tinyurl.com/kstate-RAB to see pictures.

[TomK]

"Dog & crew suited up in full Kevlar body armor, then proceeded to get lost in deepest, darkest, albizia shrouded Puna. Some viewers, most likely roundabout construction workers as well, have never forgotten that segment, and are still afraid to step foot in Puna after the sun goes down."

Thank you, HOTPE. At least you understand I was being just a little sarcastic about night work and out-of-the-box thinking. But I do like your explanation of why work can't be done at night compared to it rains a bit more at night. For reasons I don't understand, other rainy places seem to cope with night-time roadwork. Puna rain must be different.

I've yet to see that episode of Dog in Puna, although I heard about it. To be truthful, there are several more episodes from that series I have yet to watch. Actually, pretty much all of them...

But I understand the dangers of entering into a dark, scary and unknown territory. Not Puna related, but I imagine Dog must have been as scared as these guys.

https://youtu.be/pKcJ-0bAHB4

[mermaid53]

Thanks Tom for the laughs. Quite entertaining.

I did see Dog's show shortly after moving here, where they were driving in HPP at night. Their discussion before arrival was how pitch black it will be and that it's in the boonies. He said it as if it was a place to be feared. It was pitch black, we are sort of in the boonies compared to some places. My visiting sister in law from Ogden Utah answered her cell phone one afternoon telling the caller she was in the boonies. That got a chuckle out of us.

[TomK]

Beware entering Puna. Or Wiltshire. These are the people you might encounter.

https://youtu.be/bhDJxEPRDek