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Originally posted by leo
Did the so called president go rogue and sign a contract? He's suing HPPOA and participating in a coup with the general manager. He has no authority to act on HPP's behalf while the lawsuit is going on. He's a liability right now and shouldn't be signing any contracts for HPP.
I have AT&T as well and my cell service is disrupted in many parts of HPP, and there are pockets of no service right in my own neighborhood. I would benefit greatly to have an AT&T tower in HPP.
The board DID NOT GIVE A GREEN LIGHT to put up an AT&T tower. I should know since I'm a director. There was more business to be conducted first. There wasn't any discussion about the playground at any board meeting. After all the research had been collected, and before any contract was signed, the board should present the information to the members at a membership meeting to include the community into the conversation. The board doesn't have the authority to act as trustees of HPP land/property for the corporation. The membership must be included in these decisions per Hawaii Revised Statutes 414D.
I think the conversation of an AT&T tower should be discussed but not until there's a board having board meetings again.
It was startling to see the Tribune Herald article state the HPP president had approved this and it begs the question if a contract has been signed. I'm assuming they're speaking of Larry Kawaauhau, the man who's suing the Association? The legitimacy of his "president" seat has come into question by members. Either way, he has no authority to sign any contracts or act as a board of one.
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"the board should present the information to the members at a membership meeting to include the community into the conversation."
THAT'S NOT HOW THE BYLAWS READ !
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Originally posted by Obie
"the board should present the information to the members at a membership meeting to include the community into the conversation."
THAT'S NOT HOW THE BYLAWS READ !
It's in our Charter of Incorporation and our bylaws "Objects and Purposes", the most ignored bylaws of authoritarian boards. The board SERVES as representatives to the membership.
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The "Membership Corporation" model seems to fail when too many of the members are paranoid morons. Maybe we need a new model for our associations.
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Maybe we need a new model for our associations.
Maybe the roads should be public and maintained by County.
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"It's in our Charter of Incorporation and our bylaws "Objects and Purposes", the most ignored bylaws of authoritarian boards. The board SERVES as representatives to the membership."
I agree that the object and purpose is to serve the lot owners.
That would be all of the lot owners.
An angry mob of 30 lot owners meeting and demanding an expensive audit or firing a GM who is doing a good job does not serve the majority of the lot owners.
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does not serve the majority of the lot owners
Just like this thread!
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Originally posted by Obie
"It's in our Charter of Incorporation and our bylaws "Objects and Purposes", the most ignored bylaws of authoritarian boards. The board SERVES as representatives to the membership."
I agree that the object and purpose is to serve the lot owners.
That would be all of the lot owners.
An angry mob of 30 lot owners meeting and demanding an expensive audit or firing a GM who is doing a good job does not serve the majority of the lot owners.
Unfortunately, it doesn’t really matter what you or I think because an angry mob of 30 lot owners is a quorum and is all that’s required.
Section 11. Quorum of the Board of Directors. A majority of the Board of Directors hereinafter referred to as "board".
Section 12. Quorum of the Membership. A majority of the members in good standing or 30 members in good standing, whichever is less.
KP
KP
“When your hate is louder than your love, your words have no meaning!”
an angry mob of 30
Question:
What's the difference between an angry mob and a group of concerned citizens?
Is it simply whether they agree with you or not?
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quote:
Originally posted by Obie
That would be all of the lot owners.
An angry mob of 30 lot owners meeting and demanding an expensive audit or firing a GM who is doing a good job does not serve the majority of the lot owners.
The "GM is doing a good job" ?!! You've got to be off your friggin rocker Obie! Oh yeah he's a friend of yours. The general manager's in cahoots with the rogue renegade director that's suing HPPOA and cancelling all our meetings and spending money with zero transparency. No doubt he's involved with the AT&T tower crap so that means they're signing contracts too. His loyalty to a rogue renegade director, not to HPPOA who pays his healthy salary deserves to be fired! In what world does an employee get away with that? And we need a forensic audit more than ever before. If that renegade director didn't keep cancelling all the members meetings we could take care of this business legit at a meeting. That's probably why they're cancelling members meetings-they're afraid of an angry mob.