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Panaewa Farm Lots?
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That's beautiful dude! I am a little embarrassed because I have been shown how to check this info before and did not before posting. Also should have checked here first:

AH that's dudette!

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#12
My apologies... dudette ;-)

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#13
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Originally posted by Greg

My impression of "leasehold" is that you pay for structures and improvements on the property plus a small yearly payment to the state. If you sell your lease, you are compensated for the improvements and structures, plus any new ones made.
Leases are not alike but when you buy a leasehold property your purchase is worth less and less every day, up to the date of the expiration date of the lease when your purchase becomes worthless. (You are free to pack up your house and leave.)[Big Grin]
There usually are renegotiation dates in the lease and that's usually for every ten years. While your lease might be good for 30 years, your lease payments will change every ten years. The renegotiation method usually is based on appraisal but has a minimum guaranteed return for the land owner. If you want to sell your leasehold property you have to get a consent from the landowner.
Please note that banks don't loan on leasehold properties for more than 10 years minus the lease. (Ie., if your remaining lease is 30 years than you can get a 20 year loan.)
Again, leases are different, and can give you a shock at the first renegotiation date. (In one case that I know of in Kona the monthly $85 lease payment jumped to $400 at the first renegotiation!) Make sure you are represented by a real estate agent who knows about leases and can explain what you are buying, or better yet, hire an attorney.
I am not saying leasehold properties are bad, I used to own a leasehold condo.

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808.989.1314
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#14
Mahalo John.
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#15
I forgot to add that at some leasehold properties you have to pay a certain percentage of the agricultural income to the landowner, and at some leasehold properties you can not even live on the property, you can only use it for agricultural purposes. Another very important factor: you can not buy a leasehold property on a 1031 Tax-Deferred Exchange unless there is at least 30 years remaining on the lease. As I mentioned it before, leasehold is a very, very complex issue. I know of only three other real estate agents here on the West side of the island who are familiar with the leasehold issue.

Aloha,
John S. Rabi, GM,ARB,BFT,CM,CBR,FHS,PB,RB
808.989.1314
http://www.JohnRabi.com
Typically Tropical Properties
"The Next Level of Service!"
This is what I think of the Kona Board of Realtors: http://www.nsm88.org/aboutus.html

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#16
Excellent explanation, John. Your first sentence is key . . . leasehold property is a declining asset.
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#17
Yes, that is correct Ric. The most "generous" surrender clause I have ever seen in a lease was $10,000 from the landowner at the end of the lease. The only good thing about a leasehold property for investment is that the full purchase price can be depreciated over 27 and 1/2 years. With fee simple properties only the improvements value can be depreciated, the land value can not be written off.

Aloha,
John S. Rabi, GM,ARB,BFT,CM,CBR,FHS,PB,RB
808.989.1314
http://www.JohnRabi.com
Typically Tropical Properties
"The Next Level of Service!"
This is what I think of the Kona Board of Realtors: http://www.nsm88.org/aboutus.html

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