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Best/most important 5 movies ever
#61
Yes, it does.
I had never thought of it as film noir, so I looked it up and came across the term "neo-noir" - similar but with important differences.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-noir

When it comes to film choices for classes, typically the most influential films don't get chosen because they make us feel comfortable and happy. More often they make us feel uncomfortable. They should have been the first or nearly first excellent film in some direction taken by filmmaking. Very important, the film should provoke thoughtful discussion, the kind where students are still waving their hands when the bell rings.
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#62
The anti-noir could be the Candy Matson radio show with the more feminine "gumshoe" as opposed to the gritty hardbitten Philip Marlowe prototype angling for the next $100 bill from desparate clients-

http://www.radiolovers.com/pages/candymatson.htm

Don't know what demographic that was- probably why it nobody heard it.

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#63
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Hallo Darling! I'm arrived and I'm happy to see you've been busy too! LOL

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#64
Smoochies and walkies??

Did anyone welcome Spyder? Welcome Spyder!!

Alice in Wonderland the 2010 version perhaps will be a classic one day, enjoyed it muchly yesterday at Prince Kuhio. I forgot people now dress up for movies ala Rocky Horror Picture Show, as their favorite character. That was entertaining as well. I still love Fantasia, and wore out two CD's of the soundtrack.



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#65
I grew up watching westerns. the good guys wore the white hats so I could understand it. Then I saw a the Woody Allen movie "Play It Again Sam" in 1971 so I went who's this Bogart? Not I would have got into his movies before then.

I was thinking the last noir movie might have been a John Wayne movie- "Liberty Valence"- anything after that? Before that there was "A Touch of Evil" in 1959.

Then they had A Kiss Before Dying and Kiss Me Deadly which reminded me of Phil Harris song I heard on Dr Demento-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcj16EGYYrs



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#66
Two of the most bizarre noir films have to be "Eraserhead" and "Begotten". I think they are both brilliant films, although Eraserhead can be difficult to watch.
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#67
Thanks for the welcome Mella l. You have a way of making the people you meet feel very special, an admirable trait. Gene is a lucky man as am I.
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#68
I'm trying to answer Carol's original question but can't come up with 5 movies. I can easily come up with a list of my five favourite movies but I don't think that was the real question!

Right now I can think of one movie in recent years that influenced many other films and even TV series and that's Saving Private Ryan. It's one of my favourite movies although probably not in the top five, but it has had a big impact on movies since then, especially war films in that they now have to match that movie's realism, especially those first few scenes on the beaches on D-Day. Don't know if it should be shown to children though!

As for other movies, well, it's not one of my favourites but I suspect "Star Wars" has had one of the largest influences on movie making, especially in the sci-fi area. I'm not a fan of science fiction, never have been, but just drifting off thread slightly, I suspect the biggest influence a TV show has had is Star Trek. You wouldn't believe how many people got into science and engineering because of the show. They made some crap movies so can't call them influential, but it might be worth researching the influence the original TV series had. The characters are known around the world and can you say that for any other TV show or movie?

Tom
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#69
Aloha all,
I thought I would update those interested on what we've seen so far (in order of appearance): Nosferatu, Chaplin's The Kid, Le Voyage Dans La Lune, Little Nemo in Slumberland (1902 10 minute short with the very first animation- a 2 minute 4000 frame segment) and we are now 1/2 way through Chaplin's Goldrush. After Spring break we are going to watch sets of films based on themes, genres, or specific directors or techniques. My wish list is about 75 films long and growing, in large part culled from your suggestions, but there is no way I can squeeze more than 12-18 movies out of the trimester, and I am having trouble finding everything I want to show.

I am having a great time with this class, and so are my students. Simple critiquing assignments are coming in as 5 page meticulously researched papers on the history of the film, complete with deep personal insights, from one student. All I can do is give her the raw materials and get out of her way. Other students are soaking up a better intuitive understanding of how people have gotten from the "there" of a film made in 1902 to the "here" of computer generated animation and special effects. As a social studies teacher I always appreciate it when my students develop a sense of continuity and connect to the past in a meaningful way. These kids are living in a media saturated world, but they still laugh at Charlie Chaplin.

Mahalo for everyone's fine suggestions, especially Kathy H. and Aloha Steven for such thoughtful input.

Carol
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A pleasure, to be sure.

Quite a few people have rightly noted George Lucas' Star Wars films as being significant in several different ways (for instance, book stores, including national chains, which carried only three shelves of SF&F before Star Wars started making room for large SF&F sections after Star Wars such was the increased readership and profitable demand for SF&F books). Imho, however, Lucas' greatest film came before Star Wars and American Graffiti. His almost unknown THX 1138 is remarkable in a number of ways; I predict it will still be relevant and thought-provoking long after Star Wars has gone to the same spot in the film library as Wizard of Oz.


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