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FYI - Bill 234 to extend the effective date passed 6 to 3 during yesterdays Council Meeting. Public hearings, to consider changes, will be held so now all these comminents may do some good. Rob, let's give Emily credit when credit is due. Now all your yammer can be heard. The whole County will be thanking her after a modified, realistic, and enforcable Code gets written through proper review. Now all of Puna can speak up for what they want,encluding the PW'ers.
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In the mean time money available for energy efficiency grants will be gone before Hawaii County approves the new code.Can we thank Emily for this too??
This article from a paper in Ohio tells the story of a very small very poor county that is light years ahead of Hawaii County in taking advantage of stimulus money.Also when I was there last summer there were paving projects and road rebuilding projects going on all over the county.We are going to get a few truck loads of gravel.
Additional stimulus dollars are heading to Carroll County.
County Commissioners announced Monday the county has been awarded an Energy Efficiency Grant for $542,000. The funds are from the American Investment and Recovery Act (stimulus dollars). The county previously received $1.6 million in stimulus funding to build a new building for Carroll County Transit.
Julie Smith from Ohio Regional Development Corp., the firm that wrote the grant for the county, said they learned late last week the county received the grant by way of the stimulus grant website.
The application calls for upgrading the heating, ventilation and air conditioning systems at the county courthouse and Golden Age Retreat, replacement of lights and windows in the courthouse and the pointing of bricks on the outside of the Golden Age Retreat.
The Golden Age Retreat is a county funded home for the elderly.
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We it's nice to know that the CoH is spending $6,600,000 for a new shooting range for the police. I don't think any stimulus money is involved. Where else can you get a shooting range for just over six million?? Just about everywhere.
Assume the best and ask questions.
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Caution: Rumor ahead -
the two Kona engineers presenting this code addition are the only two engineers on the island who can do the certifying?
And these two guys are friends of our fab-u-lous Mayor?
If true, Wow! What a great way to capture a market if this is true. Think they will let me create my own code so I can be the only one doing what I do?
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Originally posted by kjlpahoa
FYI - Bill 234 to extend the effective date passed 6 to 3 during yesterdays Council Meeting. Public hearings, to consider changes, will be held so now all these comminents may do some good. Rob, let's give Emily credit when credit is due. Now all your yammer can be heard. The whole County will be thanking her after a modified, realistic, and enforcable Code gets written through proper review. Now all of Puna can speak up for what they want,encluding the PW'ers.
How is it that Oahu and Maui are already using the modified building code without having issues with it and Kauai will begin using it in May?
It is also worth noting that each of the 4 county's building managers had got together to write this modified version, specifically to account for Hawaii's needs.
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To mdd7000, Probably because Oahu and Maui have a totally different life style. Construction and attitudes are more along the mainland type of thinking. They are a lot different than the Big Island. We have more of the Aloha spirit and the old Hawaiian life style where AC and heating are not used. Therefore why make changes that accomplishes nothing. Presently we are not wasting energy so there is nothing to save. WRT the code being amended specifically for Hawaii, are you referring to the State or the Big Island? The State, maybe yes, but the Big Island, no.
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Originally posted by kjlpahoa
To mdd7000, Probably because Oahu and Maui have a totally different life style. Construction and attitudes are more along the mainland type of thinking. They are a lot different than the Big Island. We have more of the Aloha spirit and the old Hawaiian life style where AC and heating are not used. Therefore why make changes that accomplishes nothing. Presently we are not wasting energy so there is nothing to save. WRT the code being amended specifically for Hawaii, are you referring to the State or the Big Island? The State, maybe yes, but the Big Island, no.
What does life style have to do with a building code? How many Kona houses and condos don't have AC? You ask why we should make changes that accomplish nothing? You obviously have no concept of building and energy usage. We are wasting a lot of energy due to the lack of proper insulation. I invite you to come to our home and observe for yourself.
The Big Island was/is represented in the revised code. Your response is a joke, as is your repeated support of Emily.
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shaking head knowing we have charged full stream ahead before and it has been disastorus...
On the "green" part of the energy conservation code, I see the plastic bottle, the plastic bag issue with this in the future.
How much is negated by increased production of fiberglass insulation, and production of radiant barriers?
How much energy is saved versus how much energy is used to fire up the the furnance in the mfg process to 2500 deg?
http://www.madehow.com/Volume-2/Fiberglass.html
Dont we need better home designs and landscaping plans over all for more efficient passive energy usuage? You are trying to fix a problem with another material instead of fixing a problem with a design change. HotinHawaii mentioned the tree shading the roof. Let me see - tree provides many things besides the shade. Fiberglass insulation, hmmmm?
What other materials can be used besides just increasing the fiberglass insulation and radiant barrier? Local materials grown/manufactured on this island which would really be the key for the Big Island's energy efficiency.
What is the LEED certification on insulation and radiant barriers products as related to manufacturing?
Where is JWFitz when he is needed!!!
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I just received this from some one in the drafting/architectural realm:
Hi Cathy,
I just found this in Fine Homebuilding Magazine.
This would be a great info/topic on your Puna web.
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The Strictest Building Code in the World for Energy consumption is the German "Passive House Standard"
It strives to result in a house that consumes as little as 10% of the total heating and cooling energy used by a house built to the 2006 Energy code.
This code is much more strict than the LEED Green Rated Homes, and Energy Star rated homes.
For this Standard, the TOTAL energy uses of the house, which includes heating, cooling, and electricity, cannot exceed 11.1 kwh per sq. ft. (per year)
For a typical 1500 sq. ft. house, that is an average of 1400 kwh per month to be the highest energy saver in the world.
Although electric bills in Hawaii County are the highest in the country, it is not because of high energy use, it is because we have the highest rates in the county per kwh.
AVERAGE Household ENERGY USAGE IN HAWAII is ABOUT 600 kwh per month. SO, even in a badly built SHACK, we are conserving twice as much energy as the strictest Energy code in the World.
Tell me again why we need more insulation?
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Originally posted by Kapohocat
Dont we need better home designs and landscaping plans over all for more efficient passive energy usuage? You are trying to fix a problem with another material instead of fixing a problem with a design change. HotinHawaii mentioned the tree shading the roof. Let me see - tree provides many things besides the shade. Fiberglass insulation, hmmmm?
What other materials can be used besides just increasing the fiberglass insulation and radiant barrier? Local materials grown/manufactured on this island which would really be the key for the Big Island's energy efficiency.
The first part sounds an awful lot like design standards. Government dictating design for individual homes? May work in a small agreeable community, but a county wide requirement is going to face some stiff opposition.
The second part says “protectionism”. What local products have advantages over normal commercial products?
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