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I am reasonably sure many of you are familiar of what clinics etc here in Puna and Hilo are doing.They decided they will not give prescriptions of pain meds and other meds to patients who need such. It is their thoughts {possibly backed up by FEDS} that patients are all abusing or selling these drugs! It is not a medical institutions position to police their patients and refuse them of what is needed to address a medical need! This is a BIG problem. Even cancer patients are having to go in pain and are being refused. BAY clinic is major culprit!It is not DOCTORS job to refuse helping a patient no matter what FEDS say. They took an oath. They think drugs will wind up in the treets beingsold or being abused but if they do not give these meds, heres what happens.
Patients will have to go to street to get meds at high prices. It creates more illegal activity which they are supposedly trying to prevent? However it creates more money in police budget if street crime rises as a result of disgruntled patients who need their meds!
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I work in health care, and i actually agree. Its a real shame to see doctors restrict pain meds to patients who actually need them just due to the stigma surrounding those meds. Just another aspect of life that the drug war is hurting, not helping.
This however isnt really on topic for this particular forum...so i woiuldnt be surprised to see this deleted.
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[quote]Originally posted by force
I work in health care, and i actually agree. Its a real shame to see doctors restrict pain meds to patients who actually need them just due to the stigma surrounding those meds. Just another aspect of life that the drug war is hurting, not helping.
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I have had exactly the opposite problem here, doctors trying to push very high dosages of strong narcotic pain medication on me, instead of helping me address the underlying problem or find other ways to manage the pain. Bay clinic, urgent care, and the emergency room have all tried to send me home with prescriptions for really strong drugs. When I was in the Emergency room with a kidney stone they had me on such a potent IV drip I kept forgetting to breath, my husband was watching the oxygen monitor and every time it dropped too low he would have to bring me back out of the narcotic fog to get me to start breathing again. I felt like they used a sledge hammer where a fly swatter would have worked.
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I have to agree about the Bay Clinic system. I had all my medical records transferred to Bay Clinics. I have been taking a drug for 20+ years to help with a sleep disorder. Bay clinics refused to refill the RX. I have been taking pain medication for almost as long (my refill authorizations run out before I need to use them, they are critical maybe 2-4 days a month). They also will not refill that. They are starting all over to decide just what I need. Starting with a 2 month wait to get me into physical therapy for a problem they don't know if PT will even help. I am stuck with this group because I have medicare. I must have called every office in the book, just about. No one was taking new patients and medicare. I am on SSDI and have previously documented health problems, and feel like the Kea'au office just doesn't care about me.
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Carol,
As a kidney stone producer, I will tell you that one of the best ways to get a stone to pass is to administer massive pain meds to reduce the spasms around the stone, which will then pass on it's own. Otherwise you would probably need surgery. Did your stone pass ok?
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The stone passed within 24 hours, and the scan showed no others, for which I am eternally thankful. Hawaii has one of the highest kidney stone rates in the world. I had two babies at home with no drugs whatsoever, and that was a walk in the park compared to a kidney stone. I am truly sorry if you are a chronic kidney stone sufferer. It is suffering too!
I don't know why they always want to over medicate me when it comes to pain meds, maybe because I always resist taking anything that makes me stupid. I have a high pain tolerance, and a low narcotic threshold. That whole classification of drugs just flatten me, and it takes me days to recover enough to get off the couch.
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Originally posted by Radiopeg
I have to agree about the Bay Clinic system. I had all my medical records transferred to Bay Clinics. I have been taking a drug for 20+ years to help with a sleep disorder. Bay clinics refused to refill the RX. I have been taking pain medication for almost as long (my refill authorizations run out before I need to use them, they are critical maybe 2-4 days a month). They also will not refill that. They are starting all over to decide just what I need. Starting with a 2 month wait to get me into physical therapy for a problem they don't know if PT will even help. I am stuck with this group because I have medicare. I must have called every office in the book, just about. No one was taking new patients and medicare. I am on SSDI and have previously documented health problems, and feel like the Kea'au office just doesn't care about me.
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If you need paim meds get a referral from Bay Clinic to see DR. Kaiwi. Hes a pain pecialit whos only job is to give patients pain meds. Hes right next to old Chevrolet dealership pn Kiluea. Hes a dispensary basically. Need referral and takes medicare SSD thats all he does I swear! Patients are in and out of there like a candy store. Hope that helps. YES I have a slight sleeping disorder and I need to take a certain relaxant but bay clinic refuses to give such! Will have to go to Hilo med ctr ER room to get anything like that. Real bad scene here in eastside!
2-3 years back I was looking for a new PCP, and going through the calling around hell. I called one doctor and I was invited to fill out an application to see if they would accept me as a new patient.
So now getting into a practice is about presentation?
Anyhow, they told me up front, no new patients who require pain meds. Period. Not no drug-seekers, which I understand, but no one with chronic pain.
Luckily for me, I don't need to take pain meds, but I have family members who have serious chronic back pain (herniated discs), so I can put myself in the place of those who do. I didn't bother with their process.
The Bay Clinic gets all those who can't manage to fit in with a private practice, some for insurance reasons, others because they are just not keeping their trip together. That may be part of their stance.
I actually have no idea how I would find black market pills if I were a cancer patient! Maybe in a city, but here? Seems to me the pill users are taking all the ones they manage to get.
But I sure do agree that people deserve to have their pain managed. Let the people who abuse OD themselves if that is their choice. Don't make others suffer because of the addicts.
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