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Bying /building in Puna
#31
After 10 years of West Maui - I found myself feeling that Maui was becoming like California (or California was becoming like Maui - grin) Density, obscene property values, the 2pm visitor traffic from the airport and the resultant traffic jams, the increasing poser to real folks ratio the worst of it.

So I chose Puna........... so far so good

Bottom line: Trough out all my travels - I remained happy and at peace - that comes from the inside, not where one lives in my opinion
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#32
Oh man!, St George. If not for the geological element from hell called blue clay, and a mis-directed (no insult intended) desire to move to Puna, we'd be there still.

That place is amazing. The native american tribes known as the Fremont and the Anasazi each had territory that bordered the St George area, and their cliff dwellings and rock art and tool makings are everywhere. I was totally into hiking when we were down there and you could not get off the pavement without finding all kinds of history. I took a class at a local jr college and it was fascinating to learn the real deal about them. Did a two week canoe trip on the Green one time down through the Canyonlands and hiked all the side canyons and slept in the cliff dwellings. It was like living a couple hundred years ago. Very, very cool!

But Bull, I think you meant sub-freezing. St George doesn't go sub-zero.
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#33
I can think of some places to live where my "inside" would feel very very unhappy! Some people care more about the social part, or the natural part, or the job scene than others.

My dad, for example, cannot fathom why it matters to me to live in a place where the mindset of the people ticks the boxes for me. He could care less about people. All he cares about is the climate and avoiding his allergies. Meanwhile my mother would rather live where there is cultural history.

I like to be around buildings that are older and have character. I like a local pub or cafe that I can walk to. I like discussions about literature. I liked living in a town with a university where the university culture was really strong.

I don't like the LA culture on Maui. Kaua'i is too small. Lana'i is tiny but in one day I met writers and was welcomed. I could tell I would like it there. Oahu people are too rushed and the traffic sucks. I really love the Big Island, except for the vog. It's kind of nice to go somewhere and not hear coquis at night, would be different. [Wink]

We all have our priorities.
I am spoiled by how nice people are here in the stores, for example, as opposed to Oakland, where service people were generally rude and disinterested. I notice when I go to Oahu how people are more like the mainland, and the aloha is more just training. It is so genuine here. I know there are small towns on the mainland where people are just as friendly, but I wouldn't belong in any of them.

I believe that the right place will call you and come into your life, and say, hey! come here! [Big Grin]
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#34
Sub Zero like the appliance - grin

to paraphrase mr clemens - coldest week I spent any where was a day in st george

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#35
Brad, as Wikipedia tells us:
"Owyhee is an older English spelling of Hawai#699;i, used in the late 18th and early 19th centuries. It is found in the names of certain locations in the American Pacific Northwest, which were explored and mapped by expeditions whose members included native Hawaiians"

If you like snow and are indifferent to the ocean then maybe moving to a tropical island wasn't a very inspired idea.
I'm glad you like the PNW, somebody has to. But you're right, Hawaii isn't perfect. Except for the weather, that is.
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#36
Paul, there's no dispute regarding the influence of Hawaiians in the maps of the PNW, you just needed to learn there were deserts here so you didn't go 'round claiming there weren't...

And I'm not indifferent to the ocean, the ocean is way-cool, and I love, love, love, to sail. I just get bored with the beach. I'd have bought a sailboat and moved it there but was told by more than one skipper in Hilo that the locals striped the gear and cleaned out any boat in the basin that wasn't a live-a-board. Not stuff I considered even remotely prior to moving to a tropical island.

And, funny thing is Paul, the weather there sucks. It rains every day. If you were a road bike rider as am I, you'd know after a few months of living there that you can't do any serious miles because it's a sure thing you're going to get drenched at some point during your day and wish you'd stayed home and skipped the drama. What day does the weather report not call for windward and mauka showers? Yuk.

Paul, get help.
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#37
Wow, what a thoroughly unpleasant fellow. No wonder you couldn't fit in here. Please entertain us with some more of your racist anecdotes.
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#38
Paul, get help.
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