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They are mounted at that height because of government regulations.This is to avoid false alarms caused by the naturally occurring H2S that is leaking out of the ground.
Because Kilauea usually has relatively dry gas pathways, an abundance of sulfur dioxide is almost always released. In special areas like Sulphur Banks or the lower east rift zone geothermal area, generous amounts of ground water effectively scrub the sulfur dioxide, and hydrogen sulfide is the dominant sulfur gas. One thing for sure is that whichever gas pathway you choose, sulfur gases are part of the complete volcano experience.
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opihikao
I think you have it backwards. The PUC required avoided cost.
http://www.ucsusa.org/clean_energy/solut...atory.html
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James, Information on PGV gas monitoring is available. Please check the previous citations for this information, rather than re-questioning..
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What I said was that, based on my conversations and visits with people in the immediate vicinity, I believe there continue to be questions about those people being safe. As long as those people are bothered by odors, ill health symptoms (rashes, respiratory ailments, dizziness, etc), and stress from living with those symtpoms, then I can not in good conscience ignore them.
This relates to something called the precautionary principle, which is more common in other places than in the USA: something must be proven safe to be acceptable rather than proven unsafe to be unacceptable.
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You were on the PGV monitoring location, and I must assume with PGV staff. Why are you asking these questions here? If you have a question on their monitoring, why aren't you asking the PGV staff? I would further phrase this by: you are stating a lot of things with NO documentation, including the monitor location height....Please back that with citations, not just your perception of the height. That is what you have asked everyone else to do.
Please document, with citations, WHERE the Precautionary Principle is "common" (sorry typo, corrected
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quote:
This relates to something called the precautionary principle
What do you think Doc.? Are there any studies to determine whether it's the precautionary principle or the running for election principle, which is common in the USA?
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Aaron & Obie: I guess my point is that HELCO agreed to do an addendum, which would be approved by the PUC, to the original contract lowering the rate which was based on the price of oil. ORMAT/PGV refused to do so, as did other alternate energy suppliers. Per Jay Ignacio of HELCO.
The other factor in pricing is that we are paying for a 50MG grid, and only a portion is being used to date due to HELCO not purchasing more from PGV.
Aaron: We know Mike is a friend of yours, he is a good guy. As you are in Kona, how do you feel about drilling on Hualalai? How does your community feel about it? Do you understand the concerns of Puna based on ORMAT/PGV's actions or non-action? Very interested in your opinion. Hualalai may be providing 50MG in the near future, if the source is found. Did ORMAT/OGV hold community meetings over there yet? How do you feel about the letter from Malama Solomon to the AG's office re: "Price fixing"?
Mr. Ha: Thank you for your efforts, and information. Although this topic raises many issues and not all agree, I think you said it best:
This is not about you (or any one person), it's about all of us.
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opihikao, did you bother read my posting? HELCO/PGV already adjusted the 5MW add-on PPA and the new 8MW PPA from avoided cost to fixed pricing. The original 25MW PPA is still tied to avoided cost. The latter contract is in effect until 2027.
Yes, I know Mike [I don't know how you know that]. He kindly took me on a tour of PGV facility back in August 2010. I didn't see or smell anything out of the ordinary, so I wouldn't have a problem if a geothermal facility is built on this side of the island.
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Aaron, first, why so caustic? Yes, I read it and am aware of the changes. Frankly, it's not enough, in my opinion. Further, you wrote elsewhere you knew Mike well. Mike is not PGV, ORMAT is PGV, and has not provided the Puna community with what is required, not to mention addressed the community's concerns.
I took a tour also (several times since Tru Geothermal owned it, all the way to present day) , but it does not mean anything. The health concerns are REAL. You should be a little more concerned about the ramifications of further expansion without addressing what is going on in Puna for YEARS.
ORMAT/PGV has made BIG money off our backs, and HELCO has the highest profits in the worst economy. Something is wrong with this picture, no?
Since the PR firm who was hired by ORMAT/PGV was released, are you part of the new "PR team" or something?
Do you know when is ORMAT/PGV going to hold meetings over there, if at all? How does your community feel, if you know?
Oh, and maybe your break from your blog was a good idea. Relax, Aaron, your words are cutting, and us Hawaiians bruise easy.
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Originally posted by james weatherford
About monitors at PGV.
When I visited there March 19, I asked and was told there are 3 monitors. The one that I stood next to, is about 9 feet off the ground and not nearly at the bottom of the slope. The question raised is will that detect the gasses that are heavier than air?
There are the 3 at PGV and there are 2 more state owned monitors.One in Lani Puna and one in Leilani.There was a 3rd state monitor but it was removed last year because it never recorded anything and because of budget cuts.
The data from the state monitors can be found here:
http://hawaii.gov/health/environmental/a...index.html
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