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Fight for Non-GMO Foods and Proper GMO Labeling
#51
Speaking of GMO... (we were, right??)...

Here's another reason to despise Monsanto's presence out here in the islands (as if we didn't have enough):

http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/...santo-bain

http://www.thenation.com/article/169885/...nsanto-man#

-- rainshadow
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#52
Did everybody see this in the news. Two shocking reports on GMO, plus Roundup.

<www.thegrocer.co.uk/topics/technology-and-supply-chain/monsanto-weedkiller-and-gm-maize-in-shocking-cancer-study/232603.article#>

"Monsanto Roundup weedkiller and GM maize implicated in ‘shocking’ new cancer study

Monsanto weedkiller and GM maize in 'shocking' cancer study

The world’s best-selling weedkiller, and a genetically modified maize resistant to it, can cause tumours, multiple organ damage and lead to premature death, new research published today reveals.

In the first ever study to examine the long-term effects of Monsanto’s Roundup weedkiller, or the NK603 Roundup-resistant GM maize also developed by Monsanto, scientists found that rats exposed to even the smallest amounts, developed mammary tumours and severe liver and kidney damage as early as four months in males, and seven months for females, compared with 23 and 14 months respectively for a control group.

“This research shows an extraordinary number of tumours developing earlier and more aggressively - particularly in female animals. I am shocked by the extreme negative health impacts,” said Dr Michael Antoniou, molecular biologist at King’s College London, and a member of CRIIGEN, the independent scientific council which supported the research.

GM crops have been approved for human consumption on the basis of 90-day animal feeding trials. But three months is the equivalent of late adolescence in rats, who can live for almost two years (700 days), and there have long been calls to study the effects over the course of a lifetime...."

<http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/14812749/gm-crop-could-cause-liver-failure-scientist/>

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: Govt rejects 'scaremongering'

A world-renowned scientist has warned that one of the CSIRO's genetically modified wheat varieties has the potential to cause a deadly disease that attacks the liver.

In his report on GM wheat that is expected to be released today, New Zealand genetics lecturer Jack Heinemann, from the University of Canterbury, said the CSIRO's technology suppressed an enzyme in the wheat which was similar to the human enzyme that produces glycogen.

Humans eating the wheat could find the technology suppresses glycogen production in their bodies, leading to liver failure.

His report was backed by Flinders University biochemist Judy Carman and molecular genetics expert Michael Antoniou, from Kings College, London...."

So, it is GMO week, after all. Always good to know we can trust our government and it's corporations.Wink

Lee Eisenstein
http://members.cruzio.com/~lionel/event

"Be kinder than necessary, as everyone you meet is engaged in some kind of strudel."
Lee Eisenstein
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"Be kinder than necessary, as everyone you meet is engaged in some kind of strudel."
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#53
It's good that research is being done. Science will lead to the truth. I see that first study was immediately criticized for using rats that are especially prone to tumors when given unlimited access to food.
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#54
This movie is almost 90 minutes long but worth your time to understand just exactly what GMOs are and how they are and have been affecting our food supplies. Whether you believe or not, it behooves you to watch, learn, and then decide how you want to proceed regarding your own family. Aloha.

http://geneticroulettemovie.com/






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#55
I'm posting the link to this informational piece/editorial, as food for thought and because of the scope of the discussion presented. Imho, this deserves public attention here in Hawaii.

<www.naturalnews.com/037262_GMO_Monsanto_debate.html#ixzz27Du9PU3t>

Lee Eisenstein
http://members.cruzio.com/~lionel/event

"Be kinder than necessary, as everyone you meet is engaged in some kind of strudel."
Lee Eisenstein
http://members.cruzio.com/~lionel/event

"Be kinder than necessary, as everyone you meet is engaged in some kind of strudel."
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#56
LeeE, your link starts with:

"The GMO debate is over.[...] The only people still clinging to the outmoded myth that "GMOs are safe" are scientific mercenaries with financial ties to Monsanto and the biotech industry."

That is a very poor way to win an argument: by declaring the debate is over, discussion not allowed. I can disprove the second statement, I have no financial ties whatsoever to Monsanto or the biotech industry.
Do you even read these ridiculous links before you post them? Ah, I keep forgetting, you're the guy who thinks magic (remote healing) is real.

Lawyers love labeling:

http://www.science20.com/science_20/merc...ling-92928
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#57
Paul, I don't agree with the premise that the debate is over. Of course, I read the piece and posted it because it discusses both the potential severity and scope of the GMO issue. Will GMO prove to be the new Thalidamide? Time and research will tell. GMO is a profoundly important local issue, and deserves public attention, imho. As far as the King of Science, anyone who reads my initial post about remote healing, will see that at least half of what happened cannot be easily debunked. For that reason, as well as the fact the it worked on a highly skeptical person who works in the medical profession, causes me to take the subject seriously. For that matter, it was taught to me by a US trained, Medical Doctor, who is a Chi Gong Grandmaster.

Lee Eisenstein
http://members.cruzio.com/~lionel/event

"Be kinder than necessary, as everyone you meet is engaged in some kind of strudel."
Lee Eisenstein
http://members.cruzio.com/~lionel/event

"Be kinder than necessary, as everyone you meet is engaged in some kind of strudel."
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#58
Lee, remote healing simply does not exist. It is the placebo effect.
If you know anyone who can do it then have them get in touch with James Randi, he will give them 1 million dollars. But, of course, they have to demonstrate that it actually works. That's where it always falls apart.

Cannot easily be debunked? What, by you? Nobody can fool you? You must not be able to enjoy magic shows.

People, these are the sort of anti-science people who disregard all the facts and keep insisting GM is unsafe despite all the evidence to the contrary. Billions of animals are eating GM food and have been doing so for a long time, is that a big enough sample size?
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#59
"remote healing simply does not exist. It is the placebo effect." By whose authority? It's small minds who attack people's personal belief system. If you can't defend your position intelligently, just learn to be silent instead of going on personal attacks. Very childish.

Cancer (as well as other modern diseases)rates have escalated in the last few decades. Of course, genetic manipulation wouldn't have anything to do with it.

"An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped" Dr. Ron Paul 2012
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#60
What's a personal attack? Saying something is the placebo effect?
If I tell someone that magic doesn't exist then I'm "attacking their personal belief system" ? So be it.

If cancer rates have escalated then why would it have anything to do with GM? Correlation is not causation.
Internet use has increased too, so by your logic that must cause cancer as well?

PS How is Ron Paul's election campaign going? Is there going to be another sign wave?
PPS Eaten a papaya lately?
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