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Grim Reaper to Welcome "Doomsday Plane" to Hilo
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12-24-2012, 02:22 PM
I wonder who's paying for all the joy ride?
"An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped" Dr. Ron Paul 2012
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12-24-2012, 02:26 PM
That's an easy one - the Federal Reserve ---- Merry Christmas and to all a good night............
12-24-2012, 02:27 PM
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12-25-2012, 05:22 AM
Carey, It IS NOT Air Force One. It is a communications jet. It is a Boeing E-4, which is one of the military versions of the 747. It is much older than the 2 jets used as Air Force One. There are 4 of these types of jets used by the military.
The jet parked at the Hilo Airport was introduced into service in 1974. As for the two jets used as Air Force One, they are Boeing VC-25's, another military version of the 747. They are normally known as SAM28000 and SAM29000. They were introduced in 1990. They are only called Air Force One when the President is on board. Generally the second Air Force One jet files along with the one caring the President, but they generally keep the whereabouts of the second jet a complete and total secret. It would only be brought in in the event the first one had a mechanical issue that would keep it from flying. I see Obie added two Wikipedia posts that clarify the actual uses of the two planes. I see “rainyjim” has added his typical worthless two cents worth as well! Also, wherever the President goes, all these “support” air craft go too. The communications jet(s) and the second Air Force One. Sometimes even staying in the air just flying in a big circle. NEVER does the “support” air craft land at the same place the President aboard Air Force One does. 
12-25-2012, 07:15 AM
I wonder if we have had one of the Air Force Ones at Hilo in the past.... seem to remember something about that in the news of past... but this time the Trib Herald titled the plane here as the "Doomsday" plane...never remembered that title from past media...so maybe they mix it up a bit.... do gotta say that the "doomsday" plane is kinda a downer title...esp. during the holidays...& it was right after the end of the world was to happen...so maybe I just picked up on the title this time...
Well to all, hopefully that planes' trip is a total bust & is not used this season!
12-25-2012, 09:17 AM
"As the Grim Reaper..." (italics added). For the record, there are at least two (probably at least three) different Grim Reapers who sometimes appear at political events on the Big Island, not including the real McCoy. The various Grim Reapers are completely independent and unconnected to one another, so a position or statement by one Grim Reaper should not be construed as necessarily being shared by the others. )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( Nina Paley's music video "All Creative Work Is Derivative" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcvd5JZkUXY&list=FLP7Vhr8C1-hS6BNSE3s6sMw&index=57&feature=plpp_video )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'(
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Astonishing skill! This archer is a real-life Legolas and then some! http://geekologie.com/2013/11/real-life-...rs-anc.php )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'( )'(
12-26-2012, 12:24 AM
liskir, starting to enjoy your posts as satire, they are a laugh riot.
The reality is almost all these weapons are just for show. The conventional weapon skirmishes are only because we know we can annihilate each other very quickly with escalation. Even if there is escalation to full scale nuclear warfare, it is still just playing around. The US has a suicide weapon, a cobalt bomb, which if detonated, will encircle the entire planet for thousands of years in a radioactive cloud, bringing almost all life on this planet to an end (almost all, since extremophiles would probably survive). Don't worry, be happy and bang on de drum all day. You might want to start looking into the Black Budget, about 40B. Even Congress doesn't know what is in it and vote approval for it every year.
*Japanese tourist on bus through Pahoa, "Is this still America?*
12-26-2012, 05:17 AM
Ted - you must be getting foggy in your old age! Are you confusing the 1964 Peter Sellers movie "Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb" with the "cobalt bomb" suicide weapon comment!?!?
Also, the Black Budget is about 55B today. Your 40B number was from about 10 years ago!
12-27-2012, 02:54 AM
quote: Dr. Strangelove was a satire about real life. The idea of the cobalt bomb is from the 60's, the implementation following afterward, as the final answer for MAD (Mutually Armed Destruction). In those days, the delivery system was strategic bombers. That era is long gone and the cobalt bomb can be launched straight up now, to be detonated in space. The US has conducted nuclear detonation tests in space, all the while pushing for a ban of nuclear weapons in space. That is where the knowledge of EMP came from. Also, don't forget our arsenal of neutron bombs, designed to kill people and organic life while leaving buildings and other infrastructure intact. Why are buildings and infrastructure needed if everybody is dead? The reason is not everybody will be dead. I grew up down river from the Hanford nuclear plant, and it was revealed over time that in the 60's, small amounts of radioactive clouds were released to see what the effects would be on the population down river. President Clinton officially apologized for this practice. Most of the people that were affected were Native Americans that lived down river and subsisted mainly on the salmon. They have abnormally high percentages of thyroid disease and cancer now. My father was on one of the ships in this underwater hydrogen bomb test. http://startswithabang.com/wp-content/up...losion.jpg The Navy wanted to find out the effects on ships in a hydrogen bomb blast. There were 3 rings of ships. The ones in the center were decommissioned and empty. The next ring were inactive ships but they had men on board. The purpose was to test little iron closets that the men used for protection from radiation and fallout. Net result is that didn't work. My father was on the outer third ring of ships. There were all kinds of crazy testing going on (in retrospect). This is one testing survival of a direct overhead detonation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BlE1BdOAfVc#! People tend to think of the atom bomb when the word "nuclear bomb" is used. Atom bombs are like firecrackers compared to hydrogen bombs. When I go down to Waawaa, I look out on the ocean and I know there are multiple submarines out there. One Trident has 24 missile tubes with 10 warheads per missile, each a hydrogen warhead that is probably a hundred times more powerful than the Hiroshima bomb. Each of those warheads would easily vaporize everything in a 30-mile radius, essentially a city the size of Seattle, with radioactive fallout to a radius of 60 miles. So, one submarine has 240 of these warheads, targeting accuracy within a few feet from half the planet away. One imaginary game I play in my mind is take 240 warheads, each able to vaporize a major city, then start going around the globe. On the west coast, Vancouver, Seattle, Tacoma, Portland, San Francisco, Los Angeles and we haven't even used up one missile delivery yet. Keep going around the planet, London, Paris, Tokyo, New York, Washington DC, Moscow, Beijing, every major capital, and we still haven't used up the warheads of just one submarine. We have 14 Tridents, 240 times 14 equals 3,360. With this many warheads, we run out of major cities and either use multiple warheads on them and obliterate all the towns, too. It makes nuclear weapons a last resort (the double meaning name for the canceled TV show Last Resort) and a zero-sum game. That makes the game conventional weapons instead. If you look on a global map, there are 4 main conventional weapon suppliers: America, Russia, China, and Europe. The main markets are South America, Africa, the Middle East and Southeast Asia. The conventional weapons market is a large part of the global economy, since nuclear is a zero-sum game. Conventional weapons provide a lot of jobs to a lot of people, and if there are controlled skirmishes (hot spots), then a lot of equipment gets used up that needs to be replaced. These scenarios are carefully orchestrated. Let the hot spot flash, use up a lot of equipment, rush "diplomatic" negotiations, douse the flash, move on to the next hot spot. It is all a game. True, I haven't kept up with the amount of the Black Budget in awhile but I am aware of several projects going on. We are living well into the 21st century now and there are technologies being developed that are fitting Arthur C. Clarke's statement, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic".
*Japanese tourist on bus through Pahoa, "Is this still America?*
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