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Hwy 130 lane expansion mid-2013
#21
This is a site that has consolidated all the proposed plans for almost a decade. Tons of very complicated, interesting reading.
http://www.fukubonsai.com/bi6a.html
It seems no conclusion or definitive plan ever came out of all that. There are some interesting stats, like Hilo having a population of roughly 45,000 and Puna currently at 37,000 with growth exceeding Hilo in a few years.

The plan that will work seems obvious. Everybody trade their cars in for amphibious cars, build huge boat ramps down at the end of HPP and Beaches, and motorboat your way back and forth from Hilo. <just kidding...maybe>


"It was a majority decision to descend into the Dark Ages. Don't worry, be happy, bang on da drum all day!"
*Japanese tourist on bus through Pahoa, "Is this still America?*
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#22
I have a different opinion of James activities. He may feel that I am not correct in my opinion but I have been completely upfront and clear about it. There is a basis to it. It is first hand experience, not rumors. But I do want to thank James for finally stating what's on his mind.

If James had not run for public office to represent me and my district at council I would have kept quiet on my opinions and positions regarding James. His seeking office made my opinions viable, at least to me, and I am entitled to them.

My ends? Were to express my opinion as a constituent in District 4. That opinion was that James Weatherford was not someone I wanted on council. It's just too bad if James considers opposition to his candidacy bullying.
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#23
So, the roundabout meeting yesterday was basically to inform Puna that the decision has been made, not whether to go ahead or not, and also begins mid-2013, supposedly to last one year. It totally cuts out a section of 130 for that year and the plan is route all traffic through Pahoa-town, just like before the bypass was put in. This is going to be very interesting and probably a bit more than frustrating. Not to worry, Gregor is on top of it and he is in favor of anything for Puna.

"It was a majority decision to descend into the Dark Ages. Don't worry, be happy, bang on da drum all day!"
*Japanese tourist on bus through Pahoa, "Is this still America?*
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#24
Opinion: watering down PCDP was a strategic move to keep the Puna infighting going strong. Again, I could care less about laying "fault and blame" for the participants; it's a safe bet that some (or all) of them don't realize they've been played for pawns.

Reality check: We "as a people" don't have time for this, and the best possible outcome would be economic collapse *before* Puna is built out.

By way of example: driving to Hilo to stand in a line and file paper forms with a government agency. If only we had some kind of high-speed data network that could transmit the information without burning $10 worth of gas (and, thereby, paying taxes for roads that aren't).

Insult-to-injury: listening to Government blather on about "sustainability" and "local food production" while they enact corporate-friendly standards that are impossible for small producers.

Bottom line: instead of finding places to put extra roads so that more people can drive to Hilo for everything, how about figuring out ways to reduce the number of "necessary" trips?

Best example is probably the SPACE market in Seaview: it was created to serve the needs of the community, many of whom do not have a personal automobile. Rather than help reduce the carbon footprint, County looks to shut it down. (I realize there's lots of controversy, but this actually makes for a better example, especially for purposes of comparison with PMAR.)

Google's fiber project in Kansas City is attracting tech startups -- proving that "if you build it, they will come". Imagine what kind of interisland fiber network $5B would buy; it would reduce congestion far more than a 20-mile rail line to nowhere.
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#25
Kalakoa, there are a lot of people that would agree with you generally. What is missing from your approach is the magnitude of Puna's 80,000
privately owned lots. There is no known legal method available to prevent each and every one of these from building out someday. This is one
of the basic realities of Puna that the PCDP had to deal with. Add to that the fact that Puna has been having the highest rate of growth in the
state.... then do the math. Number of people per household.

A lot of community time and research concluded that an alternative route, referred to as PMAR, is needed. Most any casual review will come to the same conclusion
as will a professional analysis. Puna is vastly under served for it's transportation needs - present and projected.

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#26
We are all entitled to our own opinion.
However, we are not entitled to our own facts.
Rob Tucker lied about facts of what I have done when I was a candidate and he has continued to lie about that after the election, further demonstrating that he will lie when it suits his purpose.

Buyer beware!

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#27
Well James, You make accusations but you provide no facts, just accusation. Not unusual for you.

If you want to get into the weeds on this let's do it. I invite you to start a new topic and you try, if you can, to do more than make vague accusations.
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#28
Nothing vague, Rob.
I specifically pointed out your lies.
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#29
Start another topic and point them out again.

Kinda makes me hope you run for council again quite frankly.
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#30
Maybe we can get Weatherford and Tucker to run in the same district? Sell tickets to the debates and we could pave all the private roads in Puna...

I stand by my assertion: while there are certainly 80K lots that "could be built out in future", there's no reason this must necessarily translate into 80K more cars on the highway.

Personally, I hate driving to/from Hilo, and I absolutely detest driving in/around Hilo; sitting in traffic is (surprise!) NOT why I moved here. Meanwhile, communities have demonstrated the ability to create their own resources, only to be shut down by County's investigation of a single complaint.

We can do better.
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