Kaiser Layoff's-47 Nurses Statewide

[rainyjim]

carey i've said it once and i'll say it again you are a literal gold mine of information

please plug your brain directly into the internet for all our mutual benefit!

[EightFingers]

Insurance should be illegal. I've been saying this for years and will continue to do so.

[kalakoa]

"Insurance" is legal because the industry can afford to buy government "representation".

[punaticbychoice]

dwedeking:
That's one method of dealing with the problem.
kalakoa: Exactly.
EightFingers: At a minimum health insurance should be illegal.
Humans are not fungible. At least since we ended slavery.

[punaticbychoice]

pahoated:
Accurate observations.

[Guest]

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Originally posted by pahoated

The American health care system is totally broken and it is accentuated even more in Hawaii, probably worst case on the Big Island. The news has been full of how Americans pay twice as much for health care than countries that have socialized health care, and getting half as much actual care. Maybe Norway is the exception but it was recently rated one of the happiest (most prosperous) industrialized nations with a tax rate over 50%, but they have cradle to grave health care and never see a bill and never have to deal with insurance companies. The approach in America to rising health care costs is start cutting more corners. If you cut away at corners enough, you end up with a circle. Round and round she goes. 100,000 fatalities per year due to unreadable prescriptions.

"It was a majority decision to descend into the Dark Ages. Don't worry, be happy, bang on da drum all day!"

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What if I don't want to be part of your system, are you going to force me?

“Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms.”
-Ron Paul

[Guest]

I am happy you have a better idea oh how to run your healthcare and I wish you luck in pursuing your solutions. No doubt you have many that wish to pursue a similar path that will join you. My problem is when you force me to be a part of your solution, this is already happening. I am wondering if you find that acceptable?

“Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms.”
-Ron Paul

[Frank]

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Originally posted by pahoated

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Originally posted by afwjam
What if I don't want to be part of your system, are you going to force me?

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Like you are trying to force me to make sense of your posts? What "my system"? All I am doing is reporting what the news reports. For some reason, this a big issue for the Tea-publicans. And is spearheaded by the serfs and peons the Tea-publicans use as their pawns. I remember when Japan started their socialized medicine system, and the right-wing was criticizing it for being just a pill pushing system, patients were just being given pills at random rather than getting better care. Oh really? Why then do they now have the longest life expectancy? Must be because they are getting worse care. Puh-leaze.

Not trying to be the bearer of just bad news. There is a medical revolution going on and just because right-wing America makes it illegal for all Americans doesn't mean it becomes illegal for the rest of the world. The Japanese recently took adult mouse skin cells and turned them into pluripotent stem cells. They then took one set of pluripotent stem cells and turned them into sperm. They took another set of stem cells and turned them into embryos. They then took the sperm and mated it with the embryo, resulting in a new mouse. It is not a clone but a unique combination of the original progenitor. There are other rapid advances being made, involving even more amazing technology, resembling the hospital repair beds in Star Trek.

The American medical system is broken but other nations are taking up where right-wing America is deciding to take the path back to a better time (in their minds), 1100 AD Europe. The advancements in Asian biological science spread rapidly -- in Asia. That is why Thailand is becoming a mecca for Americans that can afford it, the medical training is better, the medical technology is better, and it is affordable. It is also far more compassionate, not totally mercenary like America is becoming.
http://americanexpatchiangmai.com/seven-...-thailand/
Seven reasons to seek medical care in Thailand

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/09/world/middleeast/09iht-m09-gulf-medical.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Thailand Profits From Health Care to Arab Patients

Wow, affordable, quality health care as an export product. Who woulda thunk it? Your precious Tea-publicans think a better future for America is a plutocracy, rule by the wealthy, protected by the weak and poor. Your choice, nobody is forcing you to do anything.

"It was a majority decision to descend into the Dark Ages. Don't worry, be happy, bang on da drum all day!"

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ya know pohoated, your posts of the "Tea-publicans"(its their fault) rant is tiresome..give it a break bra...tha dems,repubs,teaparts, all tha same...let it go bra

[David M]

Too bad we couldn't go back to the days when health benefits weren't tied to a union contract or a part of the defined benefit package. You worked, got paid, paid for your doctor and an insurance policy for the big things, more like car insurance. Once health insurance became an employment benefit it's been downhill.

David.

Ninole Resident
Please visit vacation.ninolehawaii.com

[rainyjim]

Afwjam,

Dr. Paul said,

"It is rather strange, that unless one has a criminal mind and no respect for other people and their property, no one claims it’s permissible to go into one’s neighbor’s house and tell them how to behave, what they can eat, smoke and drink or how to spend their money.
Yet, rarely is it asked why it is morally acceptable that a stranger with a badge and a gun can do the same thing in the name of law and order. Any resistance is met with brute force, fines, taxes, arrests, and even imprisonment. This is done more frequently every day without a proper search warrant."

Pahoated, I think afwjam was asking just what Dr. Paul describes as 'rarely...asked'

Never underestimate the power of the dark side.