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Hi my family recently purchased some land and are looking for a competent and inexpensive electrician to install a temp pole on the property so HELCO can hook it up.
Also- just wondering if anyone has had a truck load of black or red cinder, soil, or 50/50 delivered recently and roughly what they paid and who they went with.
Any help is appreciated! [8D]
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You can use the forum's search button and find a lot of info
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i always use sanfords. it is because they have the big trucks, and in the long run it is the cheapest. i think the last time i got 30+ ton of black is was around 450 but that was all the way to glenwood. it depends on where you are located. also red is cheaper than black and depends on what you are using it for...
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I actually figured out the math of doing the hauling yourself and the cost per ton, vs having the big dump truck deliver it, and it was pretty much a wash. I'd just pay for the big truck from sanford's.
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Yup. Sanfords is usually the way to go. Can't hurt to call around and be sure though. Bryson's is the other one to check in the area. As for temp pole, I'd steer clear of them these days. It does no good to put them in now that Helco requires the permits anyway. Instead, go for a temp/permanent, metal pole. 6" if you plan to use a lot of electricity or add a land line later on.
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Thanks everyone! This gives me a great place to start.
And a temp/permanent pole sounds like the way to go! I appreciate the help!
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HELCO has tightened up on mixed power/telco; Telcom requires 14' (and two ground rods), and last I heard HELCO requires a minimum 18" clearance between theirs and Telcom, and they will probably tell you "no can" (even though they can).
HELCO will deliver to a 4" galvanized pole, but requires 6" if you want both power/telco. They also seem to believe that you should dig a big hole, then use lots of concrete to set the pole, even though a hole bored into existing pahoehoe (especially blue rock) is almost always superior.
Note that 14' + 18" is nearly 16' and the pipe comes in 20' sections, so you may or may not be able to get enough pipe into the ground; two 4" poles might be easier, especially if you ever get Oceanic in the mix -- separate high-voltage/low-voltage poles makes it really easy for everyone (except you).
Both HELCO and Telcom will hang the first 100' from the line, so your house (or pole) needs to be that close to the road.
There's "a guy" (probably more than one) with a bore that will drill through the rock and lift the pole into place. Have your gate posts and ground rods drilled at the same time. Backfill the ground rod holes with dirt, not cinder (water retention makes for better conductivity).
