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Little Fire Ants!! Tango Bait Co-op?
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Aloha to all my Puna friends and Neighbors!

In my never ending struggle to rid our property of the little fire ants (venemous little evil things). I have found the Hawaii Ant Lab and their super bait made with Tango.

Anyone familiar with this product may know that it only sells in the 2.5lb size and retails around $650. Tango is only available from CPS in Hilo.

We want to try this bait, but the price is a little steep. I would like to find 2-5 people to split this with as .5lb is plenty for our one acre plot.

If your interested let me know, or if you have your own recipe that works on these little buggers please share!


http://www.littlefireants.com/Tango%20package.pdf

http://westhawaiitoday.com/sections/news...-isle.html

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#2
Dragon, you may want to read this thread from last fall...
http://www.punaweb.org/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15210

We have been using 'Firestrike' for 6mos. now, and are just getting our first ants since treating in the fall.... and are re-applying...

'Firestrike' is a product from Amdro that has both the quick kill (relatively) of Amdro 'Ant Block' & longer total colony kill of same ingredient as in Tango... probably does cost more that the bulk Tango... but much more comfortable on the wallet to buy one bag of 'Firestrike', esp to see if this product will work...

It did here for 6 mos.(& three houses treating=less than 1 acres), but unless you can get a large amount of property owners all around you to buy into treating, LFA's from untreated areas will swarm & spread right back to the abandoned mounds (the other competitive edge they have is that they will co-exist with other LFA colonies & they have no problem re-purposing other ants mounds - things most ant colonies will not do!)
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Is Firestrike a granular product like Amdro? How much does the one bag cost?
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#4
Yes, it is a corn cob granular, like "Ant Block" from Amdro (Amdro makes many many products, but there are just a few for LFA's....so I am guessing you mean those...)

The larvalcides are mixed with an edible oil that attracts the little buggers....and they are actually consuming the edible oil... which does go rancid after a time, which is why those products all have a use up after a certain time...

I forget the price for the bag... and how much it covered - I'm thinking $15-20 for a bag that did under an acre coverage....(it can be broadcast in a pasture field & seem to remember the sq ft on the bag was for a broadcast application... but we did the structure perimeters, trails & tree base bait stations, as those are our main problem areas here...)
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We don't have fire ants. Over a year ago we suddenly got a few, and they loved to bite my Wife. We were afraid our little Grandaughter might get attacked, so we got some Amdro. Put a little near where we knew the ants were and that did it, except for a small brand new nest in another area. A little Amdro there and we haven't seen one since.

Jon in Keaau/HPP
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#6
I know an organic method that is effective on all ants, in dirt, anyway... Pour a panful of boiling water down their nest hole. Done!

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Originally posted by sputnut

I know an organic method that is effective on all ants, in dirt, anyway... Pour a panful of boiling water down their nest hole. Done!

comin' your way soon!


LFA don't live in mounds. 1/2 of them live in the trees. The other 1/2 live under your foundation, under your lawn, under your.... (they don't mound).
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I had the same idea and might be interested in your co-op. But what about the application? It seems very complicated.
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Originally posted by terracore

I had the same idea and might be interested in your co-op. But what about the application? It seems very complicated.


A bit complicated but I will try it. People are able to get the LFA on the ground but the ones in the trees fall and you are back to square one. It is a bit complicated. Here is the recipe that you have to mix up.

http://www.littlefireants.com/LFA%20fact...%205.1.pdf

The deliver system could be a toy water gun as you have to get it up into the tree canopy:

http://www.amazon.com/Water-Sports-Strea...pd_sim_t_6
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The LFA Ant Lab printed a fact sheet 6 in October that has a gel bait made from boric acid and peanut butter...might be worth a whirl (if for no other reason that to get you used to making & apply a gel bait, before investing in the Tango....)
http://www.littlefireants.com/LFA%20Fact...et%206.pdf

added, they also have a research page with videos on using different "ant blaster" applications:
http://www.littlefireants.com/research.html

I really like the 'Spackler of death" but also would have liked to know what the air source was...maybe the scuba tank model in this???
http://www.littlefireants.com/Vanderwoude%20C%20&%20Nadeau%20B%20(2009).pdf
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