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What say the people of Puna to this?
#1
http://www.educateinspirechange.org/2013...l-for.html

No this is not directly "Puna or Hawaii related" but it is related to a common practice for the majority of us here Puna.

Man Sentenced to 30 Days in Jail for Collecting Rain Water

Harrington, of Eagle Point, Oregon, has been fighting for his right to do what he wishes with water since 2002. Now more than a decade after he first defended himself over allegations that the man-made ponds on his 170 acres of land violated local law, Harrington has been sentenced to 30 days behind bars and fined over $1,500.

Authorities say that Harrington broke the law by collecting natural rain water and snow runoff that landed on his property. Officials with the Medford Water Commission contested that the water on Harrington’s property, whether or not it came from the sky, was considered a tributary of nearby Crowfoot Creek and thus subject to a 1925 law that gives the MWC full ownership and rights. Therefor


e prosecutors were able to argue in court — successfully — that three homemade fishing and boating ponds in Harrington’s backyard violated the law.

For filling “three illegal reservoirs” on his property with runoff water, Harrington has been convicted on nine misdemeanor charges in Circuit Court. He says he will attempt to appeal, but as long as the conviction stands to serve 30 days of imprisonment. He has also been sentenced to an additional three years of probation.
Thirty days in jail for catching rainwater?” Harrington tells the Mail Tribune. “We live in an extreme wildfire area and here the government is going to open the valves and really waste all the water right now, at the start of peak fire season.”

“When it comes to the point where a rural landowner can’t catch rainwater that falls on his land to protect his property, it’s gone too far,” he adds to the Associated Press. “This should serve as a dire warning to all pond owners.”


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#2
Don't know about rainwater, but if you dig a hole and piss in it, State of Hawaii charges tax!
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#3
you better have a permit to dig that hole
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#4
If I don't dig a hole and just piss all over my yard is it tax free?

The government must be taking the piss out of us.
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#5
The govt will be out shortly to do a urine test!

mac nut
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#6
On the mainland, there are a lot of fights about water rights. Catchment is illegal because every drop of rain that falls belongs to somebody else. Strange concept, huh? I'm not planning to keep it, just use it once and put it back in the system...

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#7
Please recall that on Kauai a landowner with unpermited, illegal ponds had a dam failure which killed some people.
Assume the best and ask questions.

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#8
During the last run up of collateral debt ..... the world bank attached run off water to sovereign ownership from common ownership and had to defend a court case - and won - to do same.

They then bought and sold and collateralized (sp?) those rights using world bank funds

I believe the same issue true in new york - illegal to catch water on your roof and save it in a rain barrel - by law the water is not the home owners and pre ordained to perc back into the soil without interruption. - brave new world

It was the reason I pulled the trigger on building in Puna - hate to see the grand kids go thirsty - never hurts to have a back up
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#9
Just Google or Bing "illegal to catch water". There are many areas it is illegal.
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#10
Well the big difference here is that the man in Oregon wasn't collecting rain water, he was constructing illegal reservoirs of water that flowed through his property. It's one thing to catch water from the sky, it's another thing to shutter the taps of people downstream from you. Whether changing the water that flowed off his property was actually effecting somebody downstream is not known, or if it was otherwise effecting the ecosystem, but the law is there for a legitimate reason. If he wanted to construct reservoirs, he probably could have if he did it legally.

Like they say in Texas, whiskey is for drinking, water is for fighting over.
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