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why are most of the houses in hpp single story ?
#11
Doc, I read the other post and beam vs slab discussion as well, which seemed to have become de-railed somewhat. I second everyone's comments here. I'll be 66 next month. I'm currently climbing stairs here at home and my mother, 88, has problems climbing the stairs when she visits. We're looking into a house in Fern Acres with all the living spaces upstairs. Why? First, I would rather cool the house with trade winds than an expensive air conditioning unit. With (both) bathroom windows upstairs on opposite sides of the house they can be left open with some degree of security. Sure, your average ninja could get in, but I'd better not be home...Secondly, I like the view. Ohia lehua flowers, Mauna Kea.

As mentioned in the other thread, the post-and-beam engineering if done right is independent of the slab itself. You can still have a slab below if you desire. Maintenance is a huge factor. Wrap around decks help with window cleaning, but if the roof is toast, you'd better have $. Also mentioned: the more roof, the more catchment. This can be extremely important, and is often site-dependent. More mauka, more rain. Or more makai, possibility of well? Just my $.02

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#12
Doc, I read the other post and beam vs slab discussion as well, which seemed to have become de-railed somewhat. I second everyone's comments here. I'll be 66 next month. I'm currently climbing stairs here at home and my mother, 88, has problems climbing the stairs when she visits. We're looking into a house in Fern Acres with all the living spaces upstairs. Why? First, I would rather cool the house with trade winds than an expensive air conditioning unit. With (both) bathroom windows upstairs on opposite sides of the house they can be left open with some degree of security. Sure, your average ninja could get in, but I'd better not be home...Secondly, I like the view. Ohia lehua flowers, Mauna Kea.

As mentioned in the other thread, the post-and-beam engineering if done right is independent of the slab itself. You can still have a slab below if you desire. Maintenance is a huge factor. Wrap around decks help with window cleaning, but if the roof is toast, you'd better have $. Also mentioned: the more roof, the more catchment. This can be extremely important, and is often site-dependent. More mauka, more rain. Or more makai, possibility of well? Just my $.02

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#13
Because dragons live forever, but not so little boys. They grow old and can't make it up the stairs anymore -- unless a dragon breathes on them, in which case they can make it up and back down as many times as they like. Little boys love them dragons.

If you see a two story, the people that live there are probably vampires. If they come to your house for a cup of sugar, don't invite them in. Make them stand on the lanai and wait.
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#14
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Originally posted by DrWho

subject says it all, im just wondering why all the houses in hpp are single story.

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Not "all" the houses in HPP are single story. We live in a 2 story in lower HPP. Half of the houses on our long street are 2 story and there are a few 3 story on our street.
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#15
more roof for water cachment

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#16
"why all the houses in hpp are single story?"

Fear of heights.
Assume the best and ask questions.

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#17
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Originally posted by Rob Tucker

"why all the houses in hpp are single story?"

Fear of heights.


Actually that is correct. Many of the original houses were built by people who left the USSR. Their fear of heights is the reason they lost the space race. They had several advanced rocket ship designs but the cosmonauts would always panic before they climbed to the top of the rocket. A trip to the moon was out of the question. This was also the reason why the USA has swept the pole vaulting and high jump competitions at the Olympics so many times. Eventually the Soviet medical machine developed a drug but it only assuages the fear to heights of 223 miles, so that was the maximum height of the Mir space station. Doubling up the dose can generally get them up to about 230 miles which allows them to stay on the International Space Station (ISS).

One time on the ISS, the cosmonauts were erecting a tall scaffold and one of them had an anxiety attack just thinking about it. In order to survive the space walk, he had to take three doses. They erected the scaffold and he climbed to the top and wouldn't come down. After exactly four hours the pills wore off and they had to call the flight medics. The medics asked how long he was up on the erected scaffold and after they got their answer, they issued a warning about taking the pills and having erections for more than four hours.

So my guess is, the two and three story houses were built by people who didn't immigrate from Soviet Russia.

"In Soviat Russia, scaffold erects YOU!"
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#18
Wow!
How insightful.
I did not migrate from USSR.
I have a two-story house.
tada! proof enough!
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#19
Terrecore, guess that explains the blue Russian vodka bottles....

There are many reasons, and many of the homes are actually closer to 1 1/2 - 2 story up, just the lower part is not "house" but the part under the house (what would be crawl or basement in most areas).... gotta admit, painting, cleaning windows & gutters much easier when it isn't 2 + stories up...and much less to hire the work out...
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#20
hey terracore....how is the puna butter ?

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