Buying in Hawaiian Acres

[aramis720]

I'm thinking about buying in upper Hawaiian Acres near 3 and B. Can people provide any feedback on things I should check in due diligence, or let me know of any things that I wouldn't normally find in due diligence? I know the roads are crap and some neighbors can be shady. Anything else?

[rainyjim]

Is there a invisible highway in the sky above your potential property?

Do the neighbors raise roosters for illegal cock-fights and lie/claim they're for other purposes?

Is there loose packs of dogs who roam the area that will attack your pets/childrem/spouse?

Is there racist neighbors who don't believe anyone else should live on "their" island?

Is there meth users / meth cooks in the area?

Do you have a 4wd car or willing to drive ~0 mph to your home everyday?

Do you want grid-tie power or off-grid solar? Does your potential property have power poles nearby already? Is the SSPP paid already?

Do you need fast internet? Is that available in your area?

How close is the lava to Hawaiian Acres currently? (Check out the usgs maps)

Am I okay commuting into town to buy anything/everything?

Have I ever driven / visited Hawaiian Acres before / met people from there?

I bet there is a lot more, hope these help sorry if any seem to obvious to you.

[lquade]

check the flood maps... check everything rainy jim said, we live in the acres and love it here, we are also on the top, out of the flood zone...

[lquade]

check the flood maps... check everything rainy jim said, we live in the acres and love it here, we are also on the top, out of the flood zone...

[Peter Epperson]

3 and B road means you won't be going anywhere in a heavy rain.

[bananahead]

like others said...
make sure its not in the creek, the creek cut through from 2 to 3 between B and C but closer to B side a bit... its on good maps

otherwise its a quieter area because not many use B because of the deadend beyond 3 going towards 2 (pig dump area)...
not much bad roads and you are very close to hwy for HA.. prob easiest come in on rd 8 and take the first right up the hill 5 blocks
but its also easy to come in on So Kulani then rd 1 and go down C for 2 blocks then left

its also the farthest away form any lava you can get in HA IMO

if you know Ras and Queen Sparrow (singers), she (queen) lives in that area on 3 between B-C



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[bananahead]

here are 2 pictures of the creek channel when it cuts through my property between B-C on 2

http://centuryoldcards.com/images/flood1.jpg
http://centuryoldcards.com/images/flood2.jpg

flows maybe 10-15 days a year total... (rarely more than 1 day in a row and it dried up within a day.... 20-25' lower than my cabin and about 75' behind it... cuts straight across 150' of my property

its a 'flaw' that made my property far cheaper, but I would have paid more for the creek if had to.... love hearing it when Im sleeping at night ... like the Truckee River!

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save our indigenous and endemic Hawaiian Plants... learn about them, grow them, and plant them on your property, ....instead of all that invasive non-native garbage I see in most yards... aloha

[aramis720]

Thanks everyone! Appreciate the tips.

[Forester]

Hello,

I'm new here, and I'm also interested in buying in Hawaiian Acres. I see a lot of dark green vegetation in satellite images between roads C and E (most thoroughly from roads 3-6). The USGS maps don't show any creeks. Can anyone chime in on what this area is like during heavy rain? Is there any flooding?

If it buys me any points, my intent is to leave the land (except a small building site) in its native condition.

Thank you all for the great information so far.

[bananahead]

Forested, dont know about flooding out past C towards E. The main creek I talked about and showed in the 2 pics from my prop (above) starts at the bridge 1 block from the Road 1 entrance of Hawaiian Acres (at south end of SoKulani Rd.) it then goes near where intersection of Road B and Road 1 should be (no road really) goes basically down C (always staying on the B side of C) to Road 8 area and then down to Ochidland and eventually empties into ocean around Shipman Beach area (I think their pond next to the beach might be part of the same source???)... I do drive many of the 77 miles of roads and almost all the low spots are rougher and will hold water when we get good rains (some holes are deep)...

Youd have to look at each property separately and in person to judge if they may have rain flooding issues, ask the neighbours too...

in my area (middle or prop) my waiwi (strawberry guava-yellow type) are mostly 8" to 1.5' thick and 40'-60' long/tall, while in other areas of HA and Puna waiwi is often broom stick size and under 25' tall (but sometimes very thick you cant walk through them. My Ohia are like redwoods too, they are slightly wider than a telephone poles but dont narrow as they get taller much and straight as an arrow, with their first branches well over 40' up the tree, some are nearly 100' tall with most of the leaves branches at the tip top.

the largest Waiwi and Ironwood Ive ever seen in all of Hawaii are on my property (I believe they are so big because of the added nutrients from the creek)

the best land in HA will be covered in a high % of spaced out smaller Ohia with normal branching, and the native Uluhe fern and some Hapu'u ferns mixed in with a minimal amount of the invasives waiwi, paperbark, and the melastoma family plague plants.
aloha

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save our indigenous and endemic Hawaiian Plants... learn about them, grow them, and plant them on your property, ....instead of all that invasive non-native garbage I see in most yards... aloha