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Sen Ruderman, where is the proof
LOL this probably applies to humans too... look at the state of the nation today Smile
PaulW and Obie are supporters of GMO - why do I no longer find their responses on the matter odd?
Check this out... LMAOROF

"Agitated, antisocial animals

When Dr. Huber visited an ongoing research project utilizing rats, he said those animals fed non-GMO feed were “as passive as can be. You can take them out. You can put them on your lap. Treat them almost like a pet cat.” Not so with the rats eating genetically engineered food: “You can hardly catch the rats that have received the GMO feed for a month and a half to two months,” he said. “They go off by themselves. They’re irritated. Crawl up the cage. . . . [They] don’t get along with each other.

Farmers are reporting the same thing with pigs raised on GMO corn. According to Dr. Huber, a farmer told him that “his pigs just seem to be always irritated. They can’t get along with the other pigs.” Veterinarian Don Skow described similar odd behavior in the pigs of his client. “They would get cannibalistic. They would consume each other—ear biting and tail biting.” And when put in nurseries after weaning, he says, some “would get a condition like Alzheimer’s. They would lose the ability to know where the feed was. A lot of them would die.” Although many of these odd behaviors had been dismissed as normal stress responses for confined animals, when farmers switched to non-GMO feed and the problems went away, the real cause became obvious.

Similar antisocial patterns that Huber described were observed by a Dutch college student more than a decade ago when comparing mice fed GMO or non-GMO soy and corn. He wrote, “The mice fed on GM food seemed less active while in their cages. The differences in activity between the two cages grew as the experiment progressed.” The differences were most striking when he moved the mice to weigh them: “The mice from the GM cage were noticeably more distressed by the occurrence than the other mice. Many were running round and round the basket, scrabbling desperately in the sawdust, and even frantically jumping up the sides, something I’d never seen before. They were clearly more nervous. . . . For me this was the most disconcerting evidence that GM food is not quite normal.”[2]
rat sizes
Dr. Irina Ermakova, PhD, a senior researcher at the Russian Academy of Sciences, reported to the European Congress of Psychiatry in March 2006 that male rats fed GM soy exhibited anxiety and aggression, while those fed non-GMO soy did not [3]. Ermakova reported the same behavior in GM soy-fed female rats and their offspring in her study published in Ecosinform. The animals “attacked and bit each other and the worker."[4]

(Far more shocking, however, was that more than 50% of the offspring from the GMO-fed group died within three weeks when compared with a 10% death rate among the group fed natural soy. The GM group also had high rates of infertility and had smaller members.

The above from -
http://www.responsibletechnology.org/autism



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By Jeffrey M. Smith

Have you seen him flying ?? !!

The flim-flam man !!
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Enjoy your dietary decisions Paul and Obie...
Any further correspondence on this matter would be nothing more than an act of toying with the specimens and I'm not a cruel person.

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Here is a link to the author of the B.S. you are citing :

http://academicsreview.org/reviewed-indi...rey-smith/

The flying flim-flam man !!!

This is really the person I want to consult on serious health issues !!

Don't you get it,he is in it for the money !

Want to buy a book, CD , lecture ??
He has a price list on his website !
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I could care less about the informer/author as they will always be the primary target of ridicule under such circumstances.
Scroll all the way to the bottom and follow the citations to the factual studies and stop trying to discredit what was found in the factual studies by attacking the person who's sharing the information in their evident questionable fashion.
Example: [3] Ermakova IV. Diet with the Soya Modified by Gene EPSPS CP4 Leads to Anxiety and Aggression in Rats. 14th European Congress of Psychiatry. Nice, France, March 4-8, 2006.
Now... I'm done corresponding on these matters.

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Ermakova IV. Diet with the Soya Modified by Gene EPSPS CP4 Leads to Anxiety and Aggression in Rats



Yawn !!!
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Australia, Japan, New Zealand, Germany, Ireland, Austria, Hungary, Greece, Bulgaria, France, Switzerland, India, Thailand (Who has banned the GMO Hawaiian Papaya specifically), has bans on GMO foods.

They must all be tin foil hat wearers huh ?
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"They must all be tin foil hat wearers huh ?"

Yes. Fear is a powerful motivator, particularly unfounded fear which can be based on any fiction the fearful one wishes to believe.
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Originally posted by peteadams

"They must all be tin foil hat wearers huh ?"

Yes. Fear is a powerful motivator, particularly unfounded fear which can be based on any fiction the fearful one wishes to believe.


It would appear that you have confused fear with intelligent selection. We don't fear cyanide but we are intelligent enough to avoid eating it. We don't fear the unknown berry on the bush in the forest, we're simply intelligent enough not to eat something that has not yet been determined safe by a reasonable level of proof. GM foods have not met with a reasonable level of proof for safe consumption. You may "believe" they have met the rigors of independent study but the fact remains they have not met such standards as yet but the early test do reflect unfavorable results which triggers a demand for further independent studies to be preformed.

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When a company has billions of dollars at stake and a reasonable question is posed and reasonable allegation are brought forth regarding its product safety - Ask yourself why such a company would not immediately finance independent scientific studies to be preformed to prove the allegations false. It's only natural to defend ones product but when ones chosen line of defense does not follow the necessary protocol to provide reasonably irrefutable independent verifiable scientific evidence then it's appropriate to raise the red flag.
Stop fooling yourselves otherwise.

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