Want Net metering from Helco? You'll have to wait

[Bullwinkle]

same here - Im on grid for big stuff - solar for little loads.... keep my honda genset handy. 2nd (vaca) house 100% solar, 8kw of battery storage.

37 million dollars will by a lot of energy storage:

http://hawaiitribune-herald.com/news/loc...-37m-liens

"The suit claims Hu Honua was given 30-day written notice of “material default under the lease” June 7, and a demand was.......

Another suit filed Sept. 9 in a state court in Delaware — where Hu Honua Bioenergy is registered as a limited liability company — claims the owners of the project attempted to back out of an agreement to pay a lump sum of $5.5 million to the former majority owner following state approval of a power purchase agreement with Hawaii Electric Light Co"

- See more at: http://hawaiitribune-herald.com/news/loc...eJQph.dpuf

[Wao nahele wahine]

quote:

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Originally posted by bluesboy

I'm off grid and loving it. For those citizens that pay tax on your income, you receive 65% of the system cost back in the form of tax credits. Its really amazing there isn't a mass exodus of people to solar. With this types of incentives, I think that's what the gov't was hoping for

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I feel the same as you, bluesboy. I'm happy to be off grid, and it was great to get a good chunk of the money back in tax credits that we spent on our system.

Wahine

[Bullwinkle]

I was not aware the feds were subsidising new installations in Hawaii ... I tried to claim on my Cali place - but..... the cpa indicated to get the rebate - law stated it had to be on grid..... He explained the intent was to reduce consumption - no grid - no reduction - no subsidy

was the rule changed? - or do I need a new cpa - grin

The suit claims Hu Honua was given 30-day written notice of “material default under the lease” June 7, and a demand was made for a construction bond, but Hu Honua “failed to cure its default under the lease.”

Another suit filed Sept. 9 in a state court in Delaware — where Hu Honua Bioenergy is registered as a limited liability company — claims the owners of the project attempted to back out of an agreement to pay a lump sum of $5.5 million to the former majority owner following state approval of a power purchase agreement with Hawaii Electric Light Co

- See more at: http://hawaiitribune-herald.com/news/loc...eJQph.dpuf

'case you missed it

[jerry]

lavalava,

Yes you can. Sometimes easy, sometimes more difficult. The slang term for this is "breakout box."

Solar companies recognize the demand for this and are starting to supply equipment (eg Outback Radian inverter) that will do both grid tie and stand alone if the grid goes down.

Jerry

[pahoated]

The subsidies, tax breaks and retail net metering prices need to come to an end. If solar PV is so fantastic, then it needs to stop being propped up by a socialism practice, the government and utility punishing the rate payer collective with a regressive tax on the many by the few.

There is no other alternative energy that asks for this government prop up, much less think that it is some sort of government entitlement. The subsidies, tax breaks and retail net metering are coming to an end. Then, the industry rate for solar PV power can float up to its actual rate cost, around 35 cents per kilowatt-hour. Solar PV is about battery management, the constant current is pulled from the batteries, and the fact they have a high failure rate along with toxic disposal needs to be factored into the rate cost also.

"This island Hawaii on this island Earth"

[lavalava]

Thanks Jerry - I appreciate the advice! I plan on running 95% solar and using HELLco when I must.

[kalakoa]

Generator power is cost-competitive with HELCO grid rates. If you really only need "a little bit" every now and then, a generator is probably cheaper.

Remember: just having grid power -- with zero usage -- costs about $22/month.