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Originally posted by opihikao
Interesting. You don't vote for OHA, but will this time to make sure she doesn't get in. And people wonder why we "assimilated Hawaiians" think the way we do on occasion. It's that Western mentality we've learned.
So who are you going to vote for, and why (besides the initial intent)? Just curious. JMO.
Sorry, I got sick of the "western mentality" bit a couple decades ago.
Just to give you a heads up, I spent just about all my life in Hawaii, my entire family is here and my children were born here. So please don't try to dismiss me as a FOB haole not understanding how it is here.
I have met Mililani Trask and she is not a person I would want to represent any part of the Hawaii that I grew up in.
As to who I would vote for that is a tough one. I would have to see who would treat my children (who were born here) the same regardless of their race or skin color.
I have stood by too long trying not to make waves, but seeing a lot of what is coming down the pipe makes me scared for my children's future here.
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The reason is that Puna has said it wants nothing to do with geothermal royalties, and the money the county is receiving is from a settlement with Puna, or that is, the people that were representing Puna at the time: Green Peace, Sierra Club and Pele Defense Fund. It was their decision they didn't want any money from geothermal royalties except to buy out properties near the plant, more monitoring equipment and health studies. That is why the money keeps building up there. OHA has been using their share of the geothermal royalties to buy back native lands. There have been several large buybacks of lands for reserves.
This recent ruling about geothermal royalties going only to native Hawaiians is a future ruling, because there are no geothermal plants on Hawaiian homelands. However, IDG is proposing the next geothermal plant be on Hawaiian homeland property. Since it was disproven that geothermal was somehow preventing native Hawaiians from practicing their religion, there has been much more acceptance of geothermal power with native Hawaiians. Once the native Hawaiians stop listening to self-appointed haole "priests" of Pele, they can move ahead, with the historical events and realization that it is the native Hawaiians that have a unique and symbiotic relationship with Pele, not some transplant from California or Pennsylvania. Also, geothermal power technology is moving very fast to the point the difficult search for hot brine aquifers is not going to be a requirement. Add to this that future geothermal plants, if built on native lands by design, is going to make all the Hawaiian natives prosperous. In Washington state, casino profits are distributed to the tribe, which is making the tribes more prosperous and able to invest in other business ventures. In Hawaii, the geothermal profits could be the same, although it is up to the Hawaiian people to make that decision.
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Originally posted by pahoated
Once the native Hawaiians stop listening to self-appointed haole "priests" of Pele, they can move ahead, with the historical events and realization that it is the native Hawaiians that have a unique and symbiotic relationship with Pele, not some transplant from California or Pennsylvania.
Actually this is a very good point.
However, I think its fair to insert after "....self-appointed haole "priests" of Pele....." the words:
"Along with Mililani B. Trask"
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It may be that her candidacy will turn out a bigger native Hawaiian vote. In some respects, if a lot of white people don't like her, then she has more ethnic support. She is a veteran attorney and puts together good arguments, although her understanding of technology concepts has been a learning experience. She was anti-geothermal in the 90's but has gradually changed her mind about it being a harmful technology. Her input to the IDG graphics animation of a typical conventional geothermal plant is apparent, since it tries to address so many screwed up and blatant lies from the anti-geothermal zealots. When a group of the anti-geothermal zealots get together, it cannot be unnoticed how it is a sea of white faces. With this ruling that all royalties from geothermal power on Hawaiian home land is for the Hawaiian people exclusively, creates a big incentive for a geothermal power plant company to bid on Hawaiian home land sites. These properties tend to be remote, so the noise, smell and gas release complaints go down to zero. There will be less county bureaucracy to deal with. The big thing is it sounds like the geothermal plant contractor will be able to negotiate the geothermal mineral rights royalties directly with the native Hawaiians. Very interesting developments.
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There will be less county bureaucracy to deal with.
Red herring; County currently has no regulatory authority over State-issued geothermal leases, unless that "legislative oversight" has been fixed.
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Mtviewdude, got it. However, I also have met many candidates over the course of 50+ years, many of which were abrasive, had no people skills, and yet were very qualified for the position they wanted. This is not a popularity contest, thus, I tend to vote for who I believe is the best for the job at hand.
Fortunately or unfortunately (depending on your opinion), Freddie Rice won his case and all are allowed to vote for OHA candidates, not just kanaka maoli. This puts the responsibility on the general public to vote for who runs OHA which affects ALL of us.
Our ohana has been here for generations, and I also worry about my mo'opuna and their future. Certainly don't want to see people in office who are not capable just because people don't like someone. Credentials and experience matter when voting for a candidate, in my opinion.
Pahoated, you hit the nail on the head several times in your posts. Completely rational statements that make sense. The AG's decision re: DHHL geothermal royalty issue will be interesting to watch. Mahalo.
JMO.
I don't understand why things need to be so personal. As "Opihikao" so eloquently said the OHA candidacy is about Experience and Credentials. So what if someone gave someone an unfriendly stare or glare. Pretty ignorant to assume its meant as disliking haoles. Isn't Mililani Trask's last name haole. I doubt she hates her own haole family member. And just because she defends her people who have been inundated with mainlanders moving here and trying to impose their views. Do you have proof that she actually said she hates haoles? Watch your allegations or it can become a legal issue. Facts are facts. Everything else is B.S.
Unless you are from the Ahupua'a, you have no standing.
Like your vote will deter the majority of Hawaiians voting for one of their heroes and icons.
You silly person!
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Originally posted by opihikao
Interesting. You don't vote for OHA, but will this time to make sure she doesn't get in. And people wonder why we "assimilated Hawaiians" think the way we do on occasion. It's that Western mentality we've learned.
So who are you going to vote for, and why (besides the initial intent)? Just curious. JMO.
Sorry, I got sick of the "western mentality" bit a couple decades ago.
Just to give you a heads up, I spent just about all my life in Hawaii, my entire family is here and my children were born here. So please don't try to dismiss me as a FOB haole not understanding how it is here.
I have met Mililani Trask and she is not a person I would want to represent any part of the Hawaii that I grew up in.
As to who I would vote for that is a tough one. I would have to see who would treat my children (who were born here) the same regardless of their race or skin color.
I have stood by too long trying not to make waves, but seeing a lot of what is coming down the pipe makes me scared for my children's future here.
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Below please find the link to Mililani Trask's campaign website which includes information on her experience and dedication to the people of Hawai'i, and all indigenous people.
Mahalo.
http://www.trask4oha.com/
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The federal government recognizes validated proof of 50% Hawaiian to be recognized as a native Hawaiian. There are some Indian tribes on the mainland that recognize 1/16th blood line to be a member of the tribe.
The Hawaiian records are very good because the documentation started with contact with the Europeans. It has been 9 generations since King Kamehameha. There are some 100% blood line Hawaiians.
OHA had to remove the native requirement for candidacy due to a discrimination lawsuit. There is a bill to require OHA to have at least one native Hawaiian. The OHA charter is basically restoration of a sovereign Hawaii, either nation or kingdom which is dividing the recognized native Hawaiians right now. They should dump the kingdom movement, that is a monarchy with the ali'i being the rulers and owners, while the rest become maku'aina'na.
Mililani Trask is going to be totally focused on native rights, so don't expect her to have anything other than kanaka maoli interests.
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