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Where is it safe?
#51
http://www.hawaii247.com/2014/03/27/volc...s-of-1868/

March marks the anniversary of the most recent eruption of Mauna Loa, which began on March 25, 1984. It also reminds us of a much more destructive series of events that affected the Island of Hawai‘i—the 16 days of earthquakes in 1868 that included a tsunami, landslide, and eruption in the District of Ka‘u.

As with many Mauna Loa eruptions, unusual activity was first observed at Moku‘aweoweo, the volcano’s summit caldera. On Friday morning, March 27, 1868, people from Kawaihae to South Kona saw a column of smoke rising from the summit. Pele’s hair (lava filaments) carried on the wind, confirmed a volcanic source of the smoke.

That evening, numerous earthquakes occurred, culminating in a strong and damaging earthquake early Saturday afternoon, March 28. By modern measure, this earthquake is estimated to have been about magnitude 7.

The earthquakes, which continued for days, were frequent and severe in Kona, Ka‘u, and Hilo. Between 50 and 300 quakes were felt each day, with the most reported from Ka‘u. In some areas, it was described as nearly continuous ground motion.

The seismic activity came to a head on Thursday afternoon, April 2, when a violent earthquake (at least magnitude-7.9) rattled the island and beyond. Located beneath South Hawai‘i, the quake was felt as far away as Kaua‘i and stopped clocks on O‘ahu.

In Ka‘u, the destruction was nearly complete. People who had been standing or on horseback were knocked to the ground. Those sitting on the ground had to brace themselves with their hands and feet to remain upright as the powerful shaking went on for several minutes. All stone structures—buildings and walls—were thrown down.

The shaking caused several landslides in Ka‘u, within Kilauea caldera, in Hilo, and along the Hamakua coast. The collapse of a cliff in Hilo caused one death, and a large mud slide in Wood Valley (north of Pahala) buried 31 people in a matter of minutes.
As the people of Ka‘u were recovering from the earthquake, they noticed the ocean receding from the coastline. Over the next several hours, at least 8 waves washed ashore, razing coastal villages and carrying people and animals into the sea. The tsunami, estimated to be more than 6 m (20 feet) high in Ka‘u, caused damage from South Point (Kalae) to Cape Kumukahi (Kapoho), destroying more than 100 structures and taking 47 lives. The tsunami was detected several hours later on the west coast of the United States.

But the devastation was not over. Strong earthquakes (aftershocks) continued to shake the island. On Tuesday evening, April 7, a fissure opened low on the Southwest Rift Zone of Mauna Loa, disgorging voluminous amounts of lava. The lava fountains jetted to heights of several hundred meters (yards) and produced lava flows that rushed southward to the sea (a distance of 13 km, or 8 miles) in 3.5 hours. The fountains also produced copious amounts of tephra that blanketed Ka‘u with deposits of cinder and Pele’s hair several centimeters (inches) deep. Vog shrouded the islands of Hawai‘i, Maui, and O‘ahu.

The lava flow was inactive by Saturday, April 11, and the earthquakes, though less frequent, were still occurring at a rate of 2–3 per day several months later. In fact, recent studies suggest that we are still recording aftershocks of the 1868 main shock!

Using modern analysis, scientists have hypothesized that the southeastern part of the island, from Kapoho to Kalae, moved seaward and subsided several feet during the April 2, 1868, earthquake.

At the time, American missionaries and Hawaiians alike said that there was no record of such devastating events in the history of these islands. But the geologic processes that caused the 1868 events continue to produce similar, less devastating, movements of the island’s southeast flank in the form of large earthquakes, such as the magnitude-7.7 Kalapana quake in 1975 and the steady seaward creep of Kilauea’s south flank.

HVO continues to track these movements and to study historical events, like the 1868 Ka‘u earthquakes, landslides, tsunami, and eruption, for the clues they provide for our future.
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#52
Quoting Will Durant: "Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice." HVO had that quote engraved and posted back in the 1990s.
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#53
The safest place to live is in a thick stainless steel submerged bubble chained to the bottom of the ocean around 500' below the surface... bring lots of food, blankets and co2 scrubber media/etc. That should cover you for nearly every possible natural disaster.
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#54
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...Obie's post is displaying oddly in the same way.


KathyH, I've noticed your apostrophes showing as 0's for weeks now. Up until this last post. The apostrophe is now showing correctly. So maybe you fixed it.

Or maybe it has to do with a setting here on punaweb? I choose Basic under format mode. {shrug??}

[I'm on a Mac. Somebody let me know if the apostrophes look wonky.]
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#55
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Originally posted by Wao nahele kane

The safest place to live is in a thick stainless steel submerged bubble chained to the bottom of the ocean around 500' below the surface... bring lots of food, blankets and co2 scrubber media/etc. That should cover you for nearly every possible natural disaster.


I was thinking the safest place would be in the underground salt mines in Kansas somewhere.....[Big Grin]
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#56
The OP was about where was the safest place to buy on the island. Two answers are the island is being formed from the northwest to the southeast, that is, the area to the northwest is geologically older, therefore more inactive, getting younger to the southeast, Puna. It gets so young that it is new born at the edge of creation, so the whole area downslope of the east rift zone is in an ongoing active area. The other answer is look at the price of lots. Cheap in Puna doesn't mean it is a bargain. It is based on how much risk is involved and people should stop complaining about southeast Puna because they know what they bought into.

"This island Hawaii on this island Earth"
*Japanese tourist on bus through Pahoa, "Is this still America?*
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#57
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people should stop complaining about southeast Puna because they know what they bought into.

As one who "bought into" the lack of infrastructure: agree.

As one who pays taxes which are redirected to Kona: disagree.
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#58
I strongly suggest that any one thinking of moving here,live here for a minimum of one year prior to buying your own piece of paradise.Know the issues,know the logistics,check out every option available so you make an informed choice.
Check with law enforcement to see where the highest crimes are,check with Civil Defense on known 50 year events such as flooding,lava flows and or rainfall patterns.
Go to the library and see what is what.
Befriend a local,ask questions,stay informed.

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#59
Kalakoa: "As one who pays taxes which are redirected to Kona: disagree."

Well, you might more accurately say "redirected to Hilo." Due to the presence of numerous upscale resorts, the Kona side of the Big Island pays a disproportionate share of property taxes. That's the reason there have been several proposals to split us into two counties. Of course, such proposals get nowhere in the legislature due to fears that the same might happen on Oahu.
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Well, you might more accurately say "redirected to Hilo."

You might, if the roads therein were actively maintained, but remember this is the County that "sat on" a $2.3M FTR reserve ... while taking out another $60M "infrastructure bond".

To be fair, some of the worst roads are technically State highways.
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