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I live in district 4 and already voted last week. Your childish and well timed accusations against Tiffany could and should have been handled differently if you had any respect for yourself or the people of Puna. If you had prior knowledge of Tiffanie's voter or taxpayer issues and it really bothered you, you could have dealt with her directly or you could have filed a complaint with the voter board or tax office. Instead it seems like you set a trap and lied in wait then publicly sprung you trap on her just weeks prior to the primary election.
From my point of view you and RJ seem to have some serious issues with Tiffany which predate her candidacy and you have carefully lay in wait for the opportune time to try and wound her. I see you as not seeking justice, but seeking revenge for something entirely unrelated and in the past.
In another week I predict RJ will get maybe 5% of the Puna vote because 5% of the population is verified foolish or crazy and then you two will recede back into obscurity. But in the process you are willing to put Puna on the stage as a bunch of resentful and petty people which just perpetuates the myth that all Punatics are a little crazy. Just my opinion, but you seem to be using the political season to harm you enemies rather than promote any good ideas you and/ or RJ might have. Do you have any good ideas, or is it all about hate and spite?
steve 1 "Do you have any good ideas,"
Yeah, we have some good ideas. I am going to ignore all that other crap. That was like barf. I hope you feel better.
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Sativa,
You claim Tiffany is the front runner, can you share the source of that data? I've been trying to find local polling data other than Damon's totally unscientific poll, which has Paleka leading, with no success, so I would love to know where you are getting your data.
Carol
Carol
Every time you feel yourself getting pulled into other people's nonsense, repeat these words: Not my circus, not my monkeys.
Polish Proverb
steve1 quote:
"In another week I predict RJ will get maybe 5%"
steve1, RJ really appreciates your projection. That is most generous. She was thinking more like 2%.
carol quote:
"Sativa,
You claim Tiffany is the front runner, can you share the source of that data? I've been trying to find local polling data other than Damon's totally unscientific poll, which has Paleka leading, with no success, so I would love to know where you are getting your data."
I think I read it in the P.A.C article in yesterdays paper. Your making me want to go find the newspaper. I'll be back.
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Sativa: if I read your response correctly it suggests that you and RJ already know you are losers, yes?
(People with thin skin shouldn't go into politics)
Hmm, well I thought I was done with this thread, but I came back to read and find a new poster with questions for me. I don't think I would have nearly so many responses if other posters had not elected to focus on me and grill me for my motives.
Short answer: There is only one candidate who is likely to win AND needs exposure of the other side to counter the big PR campaign, Tiffany. I think the others are either admirable people, or have no shot at winning, or both, so there is no reason to focus on them -- for my part. Anyone here is welcome to focus on anyone they want, other than myself of course (according to DicussTruth). quote:
In fact, I would say that what was once being done to you by a certain cartoonist, has been replaced by you doing virtually the same thing to Tiffany.
This is not true and is way out of line, extremely off base and offensive. It brings up a lot of pain, particularly as the cartoonist said and drew a lot of darkness about my dear father, who just died, and I'm still dealing with the loss. When you bring it up, I think about how awful that was, and the things he drew and said about my sweet mother. Don't EVER compare that abuse to my legitimate questioning of a political candidate.
Throughout this topic I've had questions lobbed at me about the cartoonist, which I already mentioned is a topic Rob as the person with control of Punaweb doesn't allow.
So here it is again, and I'd ask Rob to either state that it's off limits by his own rules (not mine), and delete the heckling about it, or allow me to answer (as briefly as I can). Because I don't think it's fair that I can be asked about it but am not allowed to respond. I'm not dodging it. I'm respecting Rob's moderation, but you are not.
As I said earlier in the topic, anyone who genuinely wants to know about that can email me. I personally think it's completely off topic to even go there. I just don't like being put into a position where if I don't answer I look like I have nothing to say for myself, and if I do answer I am falling for trolling. This topic isn't about me or my motives.
As I've said before, there is either truth in the issue regarding the taxes and registration or there is not. When you stoop to attacking the messenger, you have acknowledged that you have nothing of substance to say about the actual issue, so the only way you can deflect people's attention is to get them focused elsewhere by accusing the messenger of bad motives.
Anyhow, it's late and I have a bunch of spider bites I'm dealing with, and I had to take Benadryl, which knocked me out. So I'm going to go see about missing dinner, clean up the kitchen and go back to bed.
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The news article in question mentioned an "apparent leader" in the Council District 5 race, which means the reporter is making an educated guess.
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Originally posted by KathyH
Hmm, well I thought I was done with this thread, but I came back to read and find a new poster with questions for me. I don't think I would have nearly so many responses if other posters had not elected to focus on me and grill me for my motives.
Short answer: There is only one candidate who is likely to win AND needs exposure of the other side to counter the big PR campaign, Tiffany. I think the others are either admirable people, or have no shot at winning, or both, so there is no reason to focus on them -- for my part. Anyone here is welcome to focus on anyone they want, other than myself of course (according to DicussTruth). quote:
In fact, I would say that what was once being done to you by a certain cartoonist, has been replaced by you doing virtually the same thing to Tiffany.
This is not true and is way out of line, extremely off base and offensive. It brings up a lot of pain, particularly as the cartoonist said and drew a lot of darkness about my dear father, who just died, and I'm still dealing with the loss. When you bring it up, I think about how awful that was, and the things he drew and said about my sweet mother. Don't EVER compare that abuse to my legitimate questioning of a political candidate.
Throughout this topic I've had questions lobbed at me about the cartoonist, which I already mentioned is a topic Rob as the person with control of Punaweb doesn't allow.
So here it is again, and I'd ask Rob to either state that it's off limits by his own rules (not mine), and delete the heckling about it, or allow me to answer (as briefly as I can). Because I don't think it's fair that I can be asked about it but am not allowed to respond. I'm not dodging it. I'm respecting Rob's moderation, but you are not.
As I said earlier in the topic, anyone who genuinely wants to know about that can email me. I personally think it's completely off topic to even go there. I just don't like being put into a position where if I don't answer I look like I have nothing to say for myself, and if I do answer I am falling for trolling. This topic isn't about me or my motives.
As I've said before, there is either truth in the issue regarding the taxes and registration or there is not. When you stoop to attacking the messenger, you have acknowledged that you have nothing of substance to say about the actual issue, so the only way you can deflect people's attention is to get them focused elsewhere by accusing the messenger of bad motives.
Anyhow, it's late and I have a bunch of spider bites I'm dealing with, and I had to take Benadryl, which knocked me out. So I'm going to go see about missing dinner, clean up the kitchen and go back to bed.
Sorry to have interrupted your plans, and not make you have the "exhausting" task of returning to something you thought you were "done" with.
I did not know you were some sort of like "higher up" that only can issue your opinion, albeit consistently, repeatedly, over and over, ad nausem.
I think the questions I have is worth an answer.
Not a "shout out" to the administrator about "following the rules"
If that's the case, the rule of 5 posts a day has been totally ignored by you.
And yet, each post is the same thing, over and over and over.
Like what a certain other person did to you in the past. I don't think its a topic off limits - I think it is very relevant to what it is you are doing.
Its exactly the same thing - only being done in a different way.
And to ignore that is denial.
And to call in the "enforcer" of the rules, declares guilt.
So then, NOT saying one word about a candidate who wears socks on his hands or one who has a mental breakdown at a forum - is that because you find them admirable, or you find them with absolutely no chance to win?
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Originally posted by Sativa
steve 1 "Do you have any good ideas,"
Yeah, we have some good ideas. I am going to ignore all that other crap. That was like barf. I hope you feel better.
So then, and I have to say I don't think I have ever seen this being done in any election in the past, but more or less, you and RJ decided to have RJ run for office, with absolutely not one idea for the residents of your district, but just solely to get a platform to teardown all the other candidates?
As for launching an investigation, on you, I think that might be a good idea.
I understand your version of politics.
It is to tie up everything and everyone in totally paralysis, which ends, in most cases, just like the old Saturday Night Live Character Roseanne Roseannadanna would say:
"Oh, well, never mind!"
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