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So Greggor Ilagan won an outright majority and is back in without a runoff. When is the last time that happened with this seat? Been a while, I'm sure. Maybe the anti-GMO sentiment isn't as strong as some think.
Bye-bye racist Faye Hanohano. I'm actually surprised that she didn't poll better, given her union support. Bronson-Crelly came in fourth, which surprised me because she seemed to be fairly well known in HPP. But then again those HPP voters may not have liked what they knew about her. And there's the GMO thing with her, too.
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Gregor didn't win outright until the people in his neighborhood got to vote in the special election. Roy Lozano's supporters that were kept from voting by storm damage didn't get the same opportunity.
I would like to have seen a runoff to clarify the issue.
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No one prevented Roy Lozano's supporters from voting. Do you actually believe neighborhoods vote as a bloc? Tell me how did Nanawale vote? Orchidland? Seaview? And Greggor (next time try spelling his name right...gives you back a shred of credibility) did not run in a special election. Hanabusa and Schatz did. Roy Lozano cetainly seemed, on the occasions I heard him, to be a knowledgeable anti-GMO individual, though a one trick pony. Greggor received nearly triple Roy's vote totals. There is no issue to clarify.
I'm glad to hear Greggor will have another term to prove himself. It seems good to me to let a councilperson have more than two years to make a difference. Puna districts have had much turnover, and District 5 will be new for sure. Too much continuity has not been the problem recently.
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I do believe HPP is largely supportive of Greggor(I hope this correct spelling helps my credibility. I sincerely apologize for the typo and thank you for your fine police work); I also believe HPP pretty much did vote as a block in the make up election. (Key words here- I believe)
The Puna Makai area (where I live)is generally more supportive of Roy. Many people from this part of the district were trapped in their homes and couldn't vote. They were not given the chance to "Make it up". I certainly don't expect that Roy would have won the primary; only that his additional votes would have created a run off. After all, Greggor didn't have a 50%+1 total until the HPP special make up election.
I don't expect anything to change; I just want to point out that Greggor doesn't have the mandate you think he has.
I know Roy as a mature, intelligent, listener, who would make a fine Council representative. I hope he runs again in a couple of years; and that election officials handle any possible emergencies in manor that protects everyone's right to vote.
HNN had a political science prof from UH Manoa on Friday to explain what legal options there were to allow make-up voting.
He explained that the HRS doesn't contain any provision for acting after the election happens. The governor would have needed to decide on Saturday before the polls closed that the voters had been blocked from access, before results were announced.
He did announce the closure of the two precincts in a timely fashion, and that's why they got a redo.
He said the only way to lay the ground for more flexibility in the future would be for the legislature to amend the statute in a future session. Setting aside election law and making it up as they go is not an option.
Maybe if someone (collectively) had been hollering about Puna Makai and other locations on Friday and Saturday, maybe the governor would have taken action. I don't know. Most likely only people outside of the emergency area had the energy to do it, and they didn't know or didn't care enough.
All in all though, it seems like even though the voting was a mess, the winners are the same as would have been the winners if all had gone well. Yes maybe a runoff, but Greggor was still in the lead.
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Originally posted by snorkle
I do believe HPP is largely supportive of Greggor(I hope this correct spelling helps my credibility. I sincerely apologize for the typo and thank you for your fine police work); I also believe HPP pretty much did vote as a block in the make up election. (Key words here- I believe)
The Puna Makai area (where I live)is generally more supportive of Roy. Many people from this part of the district were trapped in their homes and couldn't vote. They were not given the chance to "Make it up". I certainly don't expect that Roy would have won the primary; only that his additional votes would have created a run off. After all, Greggor didn't have a 50%+1 total until the HPP special make up election.
I don't expect anything to change; I just want to point out that Greggor doesn't have the mandate you think he has.
I know Roy as a mature, intelligent, listener, who would make a fine Council representative. I hope he runs again in a couple of years; and that election officials handle any possible emergencies in manor that protects everyone's right to vote.
With all due respect, snorkel, he is far from polished, nor does he have the grasp of what is needed at the core of Puna. In the forums I personally attended, Mr. Lozano's performance was minuscule.
What was his platform for Puna? Nothing was gleaned from his ranting about donations to other candidates.
Apologies, however, Greggor, albeit young in his tenure, has shown some sort of "moxy". It is admirable that Greggor has sustained the "'BS", and continued with what he believes is right.
He's a good young man, in my opinion, lest we walk in his shoes. No matter who is in office, WE have an influence all elected officials, and their decisions. He (Mr. Iligan) does listen....that does count.
JMO.
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What was his platform for Puna?
Did any candidate offer a definitive "platform for Puna"?
All I saw were lists of known problems, no clear solutions (read: funding).
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He lives in HPP. Look how much he has straightened that out, oh wait. One of the most vague and undefinitive talkarounds ever. Perfect for the county council.
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PT,
Under our current political system there is NO legal connection between how HPP is run and what a county councilor can do in his district. He can push for things that benefit his district, but CANNOT reorganize or change how any subdivision is run. HPP is a private subdivision run by a board of directors with a very limited mandate to manage the roads. County councilor is an elected position from a political district that includes multiple "private" subdivisions.
Apples and Oranges, but you probably knew that when you posted.
Carol
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