Police Encounter With Hawaiian National in Pahoa

[Tink]

If they created a Hawaiian Kingdom Police force that know Hawaiian Kingdom law, and ride along with a "regular" police officer who knows "United States" law I bet the shenanigans would stop. Somehow don't think the troublemakers would take kindly to Hawaiian Kingdom punishment, especially on one "hiding" behind the Kingdom for possible amnesty, shaming the Hawaiian Nationals by their actions.

Community begins with Aloha

[kalakoa]

don't think the troublemakers would take kindly to Hawaiian Kingdom punishment

Make it "fair" by allowing the haoles to choose between Hawaiian or US punishment (at least in some cases).

A strange "cultural education" to be sure, but ... it might just work.

[lavalava]

It must be tough when the borders of the reservation do not exist...

[Wao nahele kane]

Good thing he wasn't in Illinois using that camera on the police. That would be a 3rd degree felony right there alone.

[Bullwinkle]

And everyone went home that night

No one got shot,hit by a brick, incarcerated, electrocuted and rolled up in a net like an animal or tear gassed.

There was no local news flash on the tv concerning the hilo puna swat team or ex military humvees lobbing tear gas near the McDucks and best of all....

There were no close ups of the grieving widows and children.


Thank you Puna PD

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

Excellent point Bullwinkle.
The police showed great restraint, and I had the impression they would have with or without a camera on.
No news is good news.

[Punatic007]

I think people behaving in such an irresponsible and disrespectful manner should be arrested and charged. The driver of that car needs to do some international travel. And after that, even if he thinks he is more special than everyone else and entitled to a kingdom within a country, he will most likely have more respect and gratitude towards the US government.

First time I went to Mexico via Tijuana with my girlfriends, we were around 19 yrs old and anti-establishment. I came back with a new appreciation for our government that I have never lost. The more I travel, the more I am grateful to be an American. We are far from perfect but much much better than most.

[terracore]

Admittedly, I couldn't watch the whole video, but I have heard similar people quote Christian values during their "protests" and it always reminded me of this:


Justification for obeying authority, paying taxes[edit]

See also: Justification for the state and Christianity and politics

Some read the phrase "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's" as unambiguous at least to the extent that it commands people to respect state authority and to pay the taxes it demands of them. Paul the Apostle also states in Romans 13 that Christians are obliged to obey all earthly authorities, stating that as they were introduced by God, disobedience to them equates to disobedience to God, however many scholars and theologians have often noted the drastic difference in teachings between Paul and Jesus.

In this interpretation, Jesus asked his interrogators to produce a coin in order to demonstrate to them that by using his coinage they had already admitted the de facto rule of the emperor, and that therefore they should submit to that rule.[9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Render_unto_Caesar

[PunaMauka2]

2 cent tidbits:

"Police Encounter With Hawaiian National in Pahoa". ..."Hawaiian National", the topic title itself shows a fundamental bias on the issue as a starting point, no?

"We are far from perfect but much much better than most." ...i do in part appreciate the point, yet that ole notion of American exceptionalism as a rule is creeping in. confidence w/o excessive pride and a sense of inherent superiority mo bettah.

[Adam-I-Am]

On Molokai: http://youtu.be/aGos0SKwT68