what is new about Puna's geothermal?

[knieft]

pbmaise:

"The only form of energy I do not want to support is fossil fuel. Even liquidfied natural gas is better."

Are you under the impression that natural gas is not a fossil fuel? What does your boat run on, BTW?

Back to topic...

This island could easily be the eco-paradise envy of the world. Geothermal could power light rail island-wide--there are so few roads anyway. Geothermal could be bubbling hydrogen 24/7, especially at night. The BI would be a great proof of concept experiment for HFC cars since the infrastructure needs would be contained on the island (assuming people balk at light-rail construction). Fantasy: Apple, Inc uses BI as proto-lab to roll out a new generation of vehicles (maybe even light rail!) See: http://9to5mac.com/2015/03/02/apple-car-2/

Stand-alone solar systems may become even more feasible with burgeoning battery tech (http://www.aquionenergy.com/energy-storage-technology for one example) or HFC alone without the need for solar panels and battery. Geothermal could provide the hydrogen easily.

I kinda hope they pick the Bryson's site above the steam vents mentioned along the way, though that seems like it would silly given the lava flow presently. Still, living a mile or so below the steam vents would give me the opportunity to say SIMBY (surely in my backyard) to an energy source as wonderful and environmentally friendly as geothermal. The irony being that we are 15 poles away from the grid and are completely stand alone anyway--like many around the Pohoiki geothermal.

An "anti-geothermal environmentalist" appears oxymoronic to my brain circuits. But to each his/her own...

Cheers,
Kirt

[pander75]

I live less than 1 mile from PGV and last time they drilled it was simply awful. This time - not so much! I can still hear the plant, but the noise level or quality hasn't changed much at all. I'm not a huge fan of PGV, but at least their noise remediation seems to be working.

[lavalava]

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Originally posted by pander75

I live less than 1 mile from PGV and last time they drilled it was simply awful. This time - not so much! I can still hear the plant, but the noise level or quality hasn't changed much at all. I'm not a huge fan of PGV, but at least their noise remediation seems to be working.

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I could not agree more. So far so good this time around!

[ironyak]

Originally posted by pahoated
People do realize that the geothermal fund is being drained by Petricci and Puna Porno group to send money to their cronies on the mainland? No doubt, there is also considerable kickback involved. The people that cry corruption often, are usually neck deep in practicing it themselves.

Can others please chime in if they believe much, if anything, of what pahoated posts? I'm not the only one to call him out, just want to check if it is still needed.

More money has been spent from the Geothermal Asset Fund on community projects (road paving, transfer station, etc) than any health study, past or pending. I won't bother you with the links, as it's clear you don't bother to read the sources anyways. Feel free to prove me wrong.

[knieft]

pander75 and lavalava

That's great to hear! Or not to hear.

Cheers,
Kirt

[ironyak]

Originally posted by knieft
Still, living a mile or so below the steam vents would give me the opportunity to say SIMBY (surely in my backyard) to an energy source as wonderful and environmentally friendly as geothermal... An "anti-geothermal environmentalist" appears oxymoronic to my brain circuits. But to each his/her own...

Hey Kirt - Geothermal energy is just a technology and is not inherently environmentally friendly or harmful - actually comes down to how it is implemented and operated. With a couple dozen citations from the EPA and DOH, PGV has shown how the term anti-geothermal environmentalist can make sense.

Combined with the insider lawsuit pending against Ormat for allegedly using PGV and other geothermal plants to defraud the United States of $122+ million in bailout money, you may end up with some questionable neighbors. Then against this is Puna, so they may just blend right in
http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/01/09/64366.htm

[pbmaise]

Kneift
My support of natural gas requires a bit of technical explanation of biogenic, themogenic and synthetic sources.

[TomK]

Oh, please! I love technical discussions. Assuming pbmaise means thermogenic rather than themogenic, I'd love to know what fat-burning chemicals have to do with reducing the use of fossil fuels.

[Guest]

Here are a few new developments involving Pgv. Meeting Friday 6-8 p.m at pahoa community center. Going to answer questions and explain phase 2 drilling, should be popcorn worthy. Ignoring the county nighttime drilling laws has brought both more lawsuits and added publicity to Puna again. The transfer station above Pahoa is open again for everyone, yet the relocation fund that helped pay for it remains frozen. And Finally geothermal has implemented it's 15 year promise to the community of some residential sound control technology, to help reduce the 24/7 drilling noise pollution.

[knieft]

TomK (responding to pbmaise):

"I'd love to know what fat-burning chemicals have to do with reducing the use of fossil fuels."

Guess this fell off the radar. Oh well, even reason can't defeat unreason...

Cheers,
Kirt