Permits denied becuase of lava threat

[Chunkster]

While Bullwinkle's sentiments are natural and shared by many, it should be remembered that we have all changed "paradise" just by coming here, and not always in a good way.

[pbmaise]

To a degree isn't someone naive to have purchased a home among hundreds of empty lots and then expected them to remain empty.

4 million people retire every year , as of 2014. From
2014 to 2034, about 80 million people are expected to
retire.

With those figures in mind, now realize average home prices in US are about $220k. That will buy a modest home in most of Puna.

www.hiloagent.com/bigislandrealestate.htm

11 million Americans now commute more than 2 hours per day. That number included me when I commuted to work in Chicago.

Commuters like these will not be so concerned about a long time trip to reach Hilo for a once a week shopping .

[kalakoa]

On-topic: if County really refuses to issue permits "due to lava danger":

1. They're directly supporting the insurance moratorium with a useful precedent.

2. They're setting a precedent which could be used against them -- it could be argued that some existing permits in "dangerous areas" should never have been issued.

3. If it's not a "real policy", it serves as demonstrable proof that County will act arbitrarily "as they see fit", which creates a different liability problem.

What a fabulous use for our collective tax dollars!

[snorkle]

Let's summarize;

1. Someone heard from someone else that "the county was blocking their permits because of the possible threat of lava".

2. Nothing has been substantiated.

3. Until this policy is verified, any assumptions on this thread lack relevance.

4. Lack of relevance is why some of us like this thread.

5. Feng Shui recommends odd numbered lists.

[kalakoa]

1. Unsubstantiated rumors for the win.

[msrocket]

FWIW, we just received an email from our insurance agent stating that our insurance company is now considering new policies in Hawaiian Beaches/Shores and most of Nanawale.

"The homes being considered in Hawaii Beaches/Shores need to be owner occupied only, and will be located mainly makai (towards the ocean) of Maikoiko St. Some homes will also be acceptable mauka of Maikoiko up to about Kaku St but mostly on the Hawaiian Shores side of Kahakai Blvd. This is a dynamic situation subject to change and homes will be considered on a case by case basis."

[rainyjim]

FWIW,

The subdivisions were developed on land that was deemed 'unsuitable for agricultural use' (despite being zoned AG) ...not on large plantation areas

One more score for Mr. 'I MAKE THINGS UP'

[kalakoa]

land that was deemed 'unsuitable for agricultural use'

County does insist on "ag uses", though.

[pbmaise]

Msrocket

You wrote

our insurance company is now
considering new policies

What insurance firm is that?

[ironyak]

This isn't my build, so not going to go into details, but it is a local community service project not another mainlander moving here to mess up anyone's paradise that they paradoxically moved here to enjoy as is, or was.

If any builders have run into permit issues or not for the area, please chime in (why do I sound like shockwave_rider Otherwise carry on figuring out the proper level of development that not too much, and not too little, but just right for your tastes.