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I don't really feel that HACA has to provide anything for me, though I do pay my road dues.
I'm not saying that nobody should contribute, or that the HA community center is a bad thing. I'm just saying that it (and HACA) are not useful for everybody. Hawaiian Acres is a big place. While I think of it as my community in a general way, the community center plays no part in my life.
The library's free wifi is much easier to get to than the community center--so is the Hilo Coffee Mill's farmers market. I go to events at the Mt. View Senior Center and the Keaau Community Center. I see these places as real parts of my community.
BTW, I'm not sure what you meant when you said, "a drop off point for our children." If I had kids, I wouldn't drop them off at the HA community center.
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the school bus picks up and drops off there. i am glad you have other resources.
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i am not sure how the library in either pahoa or hilo is easier to get to? additionally isn't there some sort of time limit ? only an hour?
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Mountain View library. There's one in Keaau, too.
I think there's a limit; the only time I use the library is if my internet is out at home, so I'm usually just checking email. I understand that McDonalds in Keaau also has free wifi.
I'm not trying to solve everybody's problems, I'm just saying that the community center doesn't fill a void in my life.
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i am not sure how the library in either pahoa or hilo is easier to get to? additionally isn't there some sort of time limit ? only an hour?
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Randomq asked..."And would you still allocate some level of funds to community benefits, even if they did not directly benefit you?"
Define community. I would say it means something like "a group of people who interact in a significant way."
Hawaiian Acres is not a single community, it's a bunch of smaller communities, with varying levels of access to amenities.
One of those communities is people who use the community center. I'm not part of that community.
I'm also not part of the community in Kona raising funds for a dog park, or one in New York building a museum.
I don't feel the need to support any of these. Well, maybe the museum, if I liked the art.
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One of those communities is people who use the community center. I'm not part of that community.
I'm also not part of the community in Kona raising funds for a dog park, or one in New York building a museum.
I don't feel the need to support any of these. Well, maybe the museum, if I liked the art.
I can agree with what you are saying about the community center to a point; however, we do not live in a vacuum. I live in the same neighborhood area as you. I believe we could utilize our area reps in a more efficient manner. As an example, our area reps could hold a get together in the neighborhood. Let's talk; exchange ideas and explore creative ways to deal with problems. It doesn't matter who did what. The question is how do we move forward. That is the hard part. Our ability in coming to a consensus. Let me know what you think.
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well im just speaking for myself ,, 30 a year and the road fee is a huge benefit to me ,,, I have grandchildren that I love dearly ,, and its damn convenient to have the swings down there and a fence ,, and trash cans ,, and a bathroom for them ,, ( even if you don't have kids ,, ) I have spent many an aft. down there pushing the kids ,,, socializing ,, always felt like a great bargain for me on those merits alone ,, !
i see so much potential in this comm. that i staked a claim ,, i haven't regretted it yet ..
i have been rescued by the bathroom there in a long prostrate emergency ,, many many times ,,
there is a vol. fire dept. . wow
every time i have ever been in center and the office ,,, i have always been greeted and helped in whatever i needed ,, the different people over the years have never failed to help me ,,, i see a huge benefit there as well ,
to be blunt im surprised that the poa and crc have enough money to pay any one enough to make dealing with these people worthwhile ,, ! it has got to be hell on earth trying to help ,, help some of us ,,,no matter what , no one can make everyone happy at once .
make some of these people happy,,, i wouldn't consider doing the office job ,,, i know some of you are horrible.
my point is ,,, i see a huge benefit for my donations,,,, and i have no expectations of being asked or informed before it is spent . the road i drive is no worse than some,, and better than others ,, we all knew this then ,,, so suk it up and quit bellyaching about it ,, i feel like i get plenty in return for my donation ,,
speaking just for me , and some people from Tennessee ,, we got a thing or two to tell you all !
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Hawaiian Acres is not a single community, it's a bunch of smaller communities, with varying levels of access to amenities.
This! A perfect real-world example of "one size doesn't fit all"... okay, now what?
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WOW!! What wonderful things to read – all these comments about life, community, belonging, not belonging and why! These are things that go to our core for HA. I will respond to most individually over the next couple days. Busy with work and family today! Aloha and Mahalo to all of you willing to share!
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Hawaiian Acres is not a single community, it's a bunch of smaller communities, with varying levels of access to amenities.
This! A perfect real-world example of "one size doesn't fit all"... okay, now what?
The fact that you own property in HA does make you a stakeholder. You are a part of the community and if being left alone is what you want, that is what you get. No problem in my view. HA is a community built on many “sizes”, several “constructs”. It is a “find your fit” place. I have found my “fit” over the years and it feels like you have also: Remaining “outside” of structured community to do your own thing. Yet you do participate as an observer and reporter. Thank you!
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