Why does HAAS need its own private traffic light?

[lavalava]

It's about priorities and Sen. Ruderman clearly has none. There are several more dangerous intersections that need traffic lights before post office road. No wonder he has no committee appointments in HNL!

[Kapoho Joe]

There is no sidewalk from the Pahoa schools down Highway 132 to Nanavale where you can see kids walking the shoulder to go home everyday and yet there is no clamor for sidewalks down 132. A few soccer moms have a hard time dropping off and picking up their kids and all of a sudden it's an emergency!

[shockwave rider]

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Originally posted by Kapoho Joe

There is no sidewalk from the Pahoa schools down Highway 132 to Nanavale where you can see kids walking the shoulder to go home everyday and yet there is no clamor for sidewalks down 132. A few soccer moms have a hard time dropping off and picking up their kids and all of a sudden it's an emergency!

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What insider knowledge are you using to call the HAAS parents "a few soccer moms"? Or are you just grasping at straws to construct an insult?

Virtually ALL of Puna's kids are underserved in terms of safe ways to get to and from school: kids are waiting in the pitch dark for busses on subdivision roads with no shoulders, there are no sidewalks between the schools and the subdivisions within walking distance, and no covered or lit bus stops. There is a ton of federal money on the table to solve some of these problems and the state government is refusing to let these funds be spent on our students. Comparing one underserved group with another to see who is getting screwed the worse is not the way to solve these problems, we need to kick some butt to make sure all our kids have a safe way to get to school every single day, not snipe at anyone who takes the initiative to try and make it better for at least some of our kids.

[kalakoa]

Virtually ALL of Puna's kids are underserved in terms of safe ways to get to and from school

Also before, during, and after school.

a ton of federal money on the table to solve some of these problems and the state government is refusing to let these funds be spent

State should be bypassed on this and other issues.

[Kapoho Joe]

I sure would like to help the existing public schools before I help a charter school with anything let alone a traffic light that no one will use except for some 300 parents (soccer enthusiasts or not).

[shockwave rider]

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Originally posted by Kapoho Joe

I sure would like to help the existing public schools before I help a charter school with anything let alone a traffic light that no one will use except for some 300 parents (soccer enthusiasts or not).

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Charter schools are public schools, your ignorance is showing. They educate any students they have space for and do so with a whole lot less funding. Hawaii has one school district for the whole state, in fact is the only state to over centralize their schools like that, with a top heavy one size fits all approach to education. Charter schools provide opportunities to those students who don't fit that model. Why all the hate?

[lavalava]

Haas gets great reviews KJ so no issue there but they do not have enough in/out traffic that would warrant a light. Backed up twice a day is not an emergency.

[dakine]

Backed up twice a day is not an emergency....

It may not be an "emergency" or whatever other's are calling it, but your petty bitching about it is pretty low methinks. I mean yeah there's all sorts of road projects that need attending to but this one right or wrong is just not worth the noise you're making. And sheesh let there be one serious bodily injury type accident involving school kids there and man you're mud!

[Kapoho Joe]

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Originally posted by dakine

Backed up twice a day is not an emergency....

let there be one serious bodily injury type accident involving school kids there and man you're mud!

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If any unaccompanied minor is walking along or across a State Highway and is injured to any degree the only person responsible should be the parent(s).

[PunaMauka2]

"If any unaccompanied minor is walking along or across a State Highway and is injured to any degree the only person responsible should be the parent(s)."

...and then what?

yeah, that sounds fine and dandy, within a more extreme libertarian ideal. but in the real world kids have always naturally found opportunities to goof around unsupervised, and certainly not always strictly following all instructions and rules with the best of judgement. obviously there is a balance to be found between personal responsibility and issues of safety being addressed and met on the community level. hello.