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The intersections in question? The North Pahoa Village Road extension to 130, the other - 130 @ Kahakai. The optimum design would remove the North Pahoa Village road connector to 130 and extend the greenbelt over the connector towards Longs completely removing that intersection. At 130 and Kahakai an overpass with parallel to 130 entry exit ramps to and from 130. That would serve as the only intersection on 130 at that location.
In the meanwhile, the extension from North Pahoa Village RD. to 130 to head South bound on 130 from the extension should remove the vertical obstructions at the shoulder forcing people to make a hard right directly into the fast vehicular flow of 130 south. A merge lane using the current shoulder onto 130 should be adopted. When attempting to look left to see if 130 is clear any vehicles to the left seeking to enter 130 north can block the view of those intending to turn south onto 130. I've seen a few vehicles were hit trying to head south onto 130 and that could have been avoided by using the shoulder as a merge lane as would be a typical design of most roadways in the US. The current design makes zero sense.
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There will be a briefing on the 29th of July at 6pm at the Pahoa community center with Sen. Lorraine Inouye, DOT representatives and others about the upcoming construction of the roundabout:
http://www.bigislandchronicle.com/2015/0...out-plans/
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Why a $5 million roundabout as opposed to a $100,000 stoplight.
If your going slow enough traffic can handle anything. Ever scooter in Asia? Total chaos but the speeds are low. Heck, get spend happy and whack one in at Kahakai. Slow everyone down coming from both directions.
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http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/news...roundabout
A "subtle start" indeed.
Per the map, it looks like they're moving the accident-prone T-bone down to Kahakai, where people often "cut across" 130.
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Why a $5 million roundabout as opposed to a $100,000 stoplight.
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Traffic signals cause accidents because people run thru the lights...
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It'll be interesting to see how far traffic backs up when the one lane is clogged by accidents.
That said i'm completely for roundabouts.
I do think there budget is a little steep, and unfortunately somehow i'm sure it will be delayed further and somehow end up costing even more than the original ludicrous price they anticipated.
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In 2007, there was going to be an Ainaloa roundabout several years before the Kahakai roundabout. That is from one "plan".
It's an interesting situation around here, not specific to the DOT, mostly government websites, that at various times in the past decade, there was a flurry to get up as many websites and digitized documents up on the web, along with people lists, all emotion charged, they get updated for a year and then are abandoned. The computerizing spurts are very interesting, from 1990 to about 1996, then a spurt from 2000 to 2004 and from 2007 to 2011. This 2011 letter is the last summary.
http://www.bigislandchronicle.com/2011/1...ghway-130/
http://www.bigislandvideonews.com/2011/0...ads-plans/
http://keaau-pahoa.com/forms/101018%20KP...ummary.pdf
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In 2007, there was going to be an Ainaloa roundabout several years before the Kahakai roundabout.
The 130 widening project still shows all three roundabouts (Ainaloa, "T-bone", Kahakai).
a spurt from 2000 to 2004 and from 2007 to 2011. This 2011 letter is the last summary.
Pattern suggests there will be a fresh burst of documents now that it's 2015.
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In Hawaii, you commonly see drivers come to complete STOP in a merge lane. Do you really think drivers on Big Island will do any better in a much more complicated design like a roundabout? Laughable. Where you build a roundabout or a stoplight you will need an overpass in 20 years or less.
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Good point timkona. Us guys is so stupid we'll never figure out how the roundabout work. I guess I have been extremely lucky as I've been through it maybe 10 times without a collision or fist fight. It is working quite well. Gee, I wish we had a stop light. Do you?
