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The History of the overthrow told by Hawaiians
#21
FYI: Another article pertinent to this discussion - (*Snipped - More at link)


New York Tribune - Dated January,1894 / Front Page:

...these are the written records of the communications between U.S. Envoy Albert Willis and insurgent Sanford B. Dole, of the supposed 'Provisional Government' and the directive to restore Lili`uokalani to the throne...

(*Note: There is a tool at the upper left to zoom into the script on the page)


New-York Tribune. (New York [N.Y.]), 09 Jan. 1894. Chronicling America: Historic American Newspapers. Lib. of Congress.

http://tinyurl.com/ob6hem3

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#22
94.3% voted in favor of statehood and 5.7% opposed it. Explain how this is an "overthrow".
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#23
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Originally posted by opihikao

FYI: Another article pertinent to this discussion - (*Snipped - More at link)


New York Tribune - Dated January,1894 / Front Page:

...these are the written records of the communications between U.S. Envoy Albert Willis and insurgent Sanford B. Dole, of the supposed 'Provisional Government' and the directive to restore Lili`uokalani to the throne...

(*Note: There is a tool at the upper left to zoom into the script on the page)


New-York Tribune. (New York [N.Y.]), 09 Jan. 1894. Chronicling America: Historic American Newspapers. Lib. of Congress.

http://tinyurl.com/ob6hem3

eta: fix long link


So, if Dole wasn't obeying an order from the United States government, then doesn't it show that they had an independent government at the time.

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#24
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Originally posted by terracore

94.3% voted in favor of statehood and 5.7% opposed it. Explain how this is an "overthrow".


Check the stats on how many of those who voted for statehood were actual subjects of the kingdom and how many were US Citizens who were brought in after the "annexation".
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#25
how many were US citizens who were brought in after the "annexation

I don't think they were ringers brought in to swing the election. I believe they came here of their own free will.
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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#26
Okay, I checked the stats. They're not looking too good for you. Most people living in Hawaii in 1959 were born in Hawaii.
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#27
You can attempt to rewrite history, but you can't undo it.
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#28
Hawaiian Citizenry(1890 Census)
Hawaiian Subjects- 48,107(Includes Kanaka Maoli and other ethnicity's that were citizens of the Kingdom)

Hawaii's Population in 1950
498,000



Most of the people in Hawaii at the time of the statehood vote were not Hawaiian Nationals. So really the US voted for statehood, not the nation of Hawaii.

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#29
Not so fast, what about your ridiculous insinuation that US citizens were brought here to skew the vote?
Obviously not possible, 75% of the population of Hawaii was born in Hawaii, in 1959.
You asked us to check the stats so I did. Don't ignore - retract.
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#30
So really the US voted for statehood

Mostly in California, Michigan, and Florida.
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