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The TMT FEIS was accepted by Governor Lingle in 2010. There was a 60 day window after acceptance for anyone to go to court and contest its findings. No one did, so this document is binding and cannot be contested.
The FEIS is actually a three part document. Here is the other two parts,
which include the public comment that you desire gypsy69.
http://dlnr.hawaii.gov/occl/files/2013/0...e-Vol2.pdf
http://dlnr.hawaii.gov/occl/files/2013/0...e-Vol3.pdf
Right on Aaron, Mahalo for your kindness. My wife and I appreciate your posts or additions to many threads here on the web. We Got plenty of reading to do now after we get the kids down at nights, no T.V in this house. Still got another 100 pages of the EIS report Leilanidude provided last night as well, good stuff really.
Some very glaring problems within the EIS reports. For starters why hasn't a federal environmental impact statement been provided? Federal funding of the TMT project had been admitted or confirmed to the tune of $8-13,000,000 dollars by the end of 2008. With expressed interests of continuing funding from (NSF) throughout the construction and OPERATION phase's of the TMT's project.
Because of the 8 criteria, the cultural concerns, and the over development already done to the summit of Maunakea. Why was Chile not looked at more seriously knowing it was an adequate location for the project outside of the United States?
Also it almost appears as if the University is the ultimate decider to the adaquacy of its own EIS report, the acting Governor instead of the DLNR? ( Now That's a new way to avoid Hawaii's environmental rules).
Also many businesses chosen or who were fortunate enough to read, comment, or share input about the TMT project still smells very fishy to ME. Why have a couple pages obviously written a bit bias from the Imiloa center, why would they care about the cultural or environmental impacts, when they are soliciting for possible future funding to stay operational, from the TMT at the end of their Pro-TMT letter?
As for the Wekiu bug that keeps getting kicked around or picked off the summit, what is truly being done for them by the existing 21 observatories? The numbers of Wekiu bugs atop the summit in the spring of 1982 may never be reached again, yet some claim the Wekiu are thriving when found individually now, or found in locations once thought to be undesirable habitats for the Wekiu bug.
Once the TMT construction begins the dust caused from the increased traffic through dirt sections of the rodway may become troublesome, Especially when adding the million more visitors dust expected once the TMT is complete. Concerned that when water is scarce atop Maunakea, some may revisit The soil binding ideas once being considered by the TMT. (Durasoil) is a death trap for the remaining Wekiu bugs that are living atop Maunakea.
Far To Many other concerns to address them all here now, don't want to be the Jack that dominates the rap for to long anyway.
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Aaron - thanks for posting the extra links. Roughly 2000 pages of reports and input from all sorts of people and groups, and they have been available to everyone for several years. It makes a mockery of those claiming this was pushed through without any consultation. It's been a long, thorough and well-publicized process.
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TomK, Some may be hidden or not being counted correctly due to the same owners, operators, or just being on the same property as the original?
NASA had also done an EIS report back in 2006 I believe, anyone care to send the link for future reading material? Would like to see the consistencies in the reports.
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There are hidden observatories on top of Mauna Kea?
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who's responsible for observing the observatories? and who's observing them? not so much really asking, more or less an observation.
The twin scopes are counted as one Tom, yet they operate completely separate on the same property. Not suppose to have more than 13 telescopes atop the summit, yet a name change may be able to add a dozen observatories too?
TomK, why should our island Keiki have to give up some of their past, present, and future atop Their Maunakea for the promised TMT educational funding programs(strings attached)?
Why does the TMT allow or have our island keiki wearing buttons, shirts, and waving signs in support of passing the EIS report?
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The Kecks are counted as two telescopes because they operate separately. They are both counted in the oft-quoted count of 13 observatories on Mauna Kea, i.e., if you don't count both you don't come up with 13. Maybe you need to do a little more reading. That still leaves you with eight observatories that are hidden or unreported according to you. Where are they?
